Accel Petcock?
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Accel Petcock?
Does anybody run an Accel high-flow petcock? My Pingal took a crap awhile back when it started leaking and so I went ahead and ordered an Accel for their good reputation and I'm extremely disappointed.
Their design is just silly, it's a separate nut and a nylon threaded coupling that attaches to the '**** then the nut seals that nylon threaded coupling to the tank -- well, it doesn't fckin work because my petcock is sweating gas.
I thought the design was shady when I installed it, so I torqued it lightly, then since noticing it leaks I went back at it to medium torque, no difference. I've now tightened the thing like a raged monkey and guess what? it still sweats gas.
Am I the only one? I hate the Pingal petcocks for their floating levers and leaky mechanisms.
Their design is just silly, it's a separate nut and a nylon threaded coupling that attaches to the '**** then the nut seals that nylon threaded coupling to the tank -- well, it doesn't fckin work because my petcock is sweating gas.
I thought the design was shady when I installed it, so I torqued it lightly, then since noticing it leaks I went back at it to medium torque, no difference. I've now tightened the thing like a raged monkey and guess what? it still sweats gas.
Am I the only one? I hate the Pingal petcocks for their floating levers and leaky mechanisms.
Last edited by TommyShovels; Mar 28, 2020 at 10:15 AM.
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Try watching an install video or two on you tube. Gas petcocks have to be installed with some finesse and a little bit of knowledge about your particular part. I ran an Accell high flow for over 20 years with Zero problems. I thought that it was a little too tall for my tank though. My gas line off of the spigot started off a little too low, and needed a new longer line than my OEM. Other than that, it was fine.
I remember at the time the Accell High Flow was written up as the best Petcock design at the time. It came recommended for "Racing" applications. My chrome never pitted, nor did it ever leak. I have heard that the Pingels can shut off from vibration on high torque monster engines, but I have only read that. Never heard that from anyone.\
You didn't say where it was leaking from. Did you use Teflon Tape on the threads? The Large Nut and nylon gasket have to be installed correctly. If you overtighten it you can cause it to leak. Under tighten it and you will likely have a leak as well. If you have damaged the gasket/washer you may want to order a new one.
I remember at the time the Accell High Flow was written up as the best Petcock design at the time. It came recommended for "Racing" applications. My chrome never pitted, nor did it ever leak. I have heard that the Pingels can shut off from vibration on high torque monster engines, but I have only read that. Never heard that from anyone.\
You didn't say where it was leaking from. Did you use Teflon Tape on the threads? The Large Nut and nylon gasket have to be installed correctly. If you overtighten it you can cause it to leak. Under tighten it and you will likely have a leak as well. If you have damaged the gasket/washer you may want to order a new one.
Last edited by SirHarley; Mar 28, 2020 at 09:28 AM.
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Try watching an install video or two on you tube. Gas petcocks have to be installed with some finesse and a little bit of knowledge about your particular part. I ran an Accell high flow for over 20 years with Zero problems. I thought that it was a little too tall for my tank though. My gas line off of the spigot started off a little too low, and needed a new longer line than my OEM. Other than that, it was fine.
I remember at the time the Accell High Flow was written up as the best Petcock design at the time. It came recommended for "Racing" applications. My chrome never pitted, nor did it ever leak. I have heard that the Pingels can shut off from vibration on high torque monster engines, but I have only read that. Never heard that from anyone.\
You didn't say where it was leaking from. Did you use Teflon Tape on the threads? The Large Nut and nylon gasket have to be installed correctly. If you overtighten it you can cause it to leak. Under tighten it and you will likely have a leak as well. If you have damaged the gasket/washer you may want to order a new one.
I remember at the time the Accell High Flow was written up as the best Petcock design at the time. It came recommended for "Racing" applications. My chrome never pitted, nor did it ever leak. I have heard that the Pingels can shut off from vibration on high torque monster engines, but I have only read that. Never heard that from anyone.\
You didn't say where it was leaking from. Did you use Teflon Tape on the threads? The Large Nut and nylon gasket have to be installed correctly. If you overtighten it you can cause it to leak. Under tighten it and you will likely have a leak as well. If you have damaged the gasket/washer you may want to order a new one.
The Pingal I had suffered that problem along with the leak, the bastard would shut off mid ride. It was just old and the lever was worn.
I know what you mean about the Accel petcock being a bit long from the tank, I had to cut my inline out to make gas flow properly.
The Pingal has a simple nut & nylon washer that never leaked on me with or without sealant. I figured with this nylon design that sealant would not be needed, however I am going to drain the tanks and use some Permatex PTFE thread sealant, I hope that holds.
I couldn't find anything on these petcocks, is the design standard for many new petcocks? maybe I'm just familiar with the older nut & nylon washer design.
These are the instructions given with the kit, https://img.jpcycles.com/staticwebfi...df/720-637.pdf
It's confusing. The instructions speak of a 'non stick washer' which was not included with the kit. I'm not sure if the wrong instructions or what. All that was in the package was the petcock, the nut, and the nylon coupling.
I did however thread the nylon coupling down onto the petcock, then installed it with the nut to the bung -- I think I did right, but I don't really know.
I guess some sealant around the tapered petcock thread & female tapered nylon coupling should seal things up.
What's the advantage with this tapered nylon coupling design over the Pingal nut & nylon washer?
When you say Nylon gasket, do you mean the threaded insert that these petcocks use? I'm super confused on what this kit is 'supposed to' have.
Last edited by TommyShovels; Mar 28, 2020 at 09:40 AM.
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Thanks for the reply,
The Pingal I had suffered that problem along with the leak, the bastard would shut off mid ride. It was just old and the lever was worn.
I know what you mean about the Accel petcock being a bit long from the tank, I had to cut my inline out to make gas flow properly.
The Pingal has a simple nut & nylon washer that never leaked on me with or without sealant. I figured with this nylon design that sealant would not be needed, however I am going to drain the tanks and use some Permatex PTFE thread sealant, I hope that holds.
I couldn't find anything on these petcocks, is the design standard for many new petcocks? maybe I'm just familiar with the older nut & nylon washer design.
These are the instructions given with the kit, https://img.jpcycles.com/staticwebfi...df/720-637.pdf
It's confusing. The instructions speak of a 'non stick washer' which was not included with the kit. I'm not sure if the wrong instructions or what. All that was in the package was the petcock, the nut, and the nylon coupling.
I did however thread the nylon coupling down onto the petcock, then installed it with the nut to the bung -- I think I did right, but I don't really know.
I guess some sealant around the tapered petcock thread & female tapered nylon coupling should seal things up.
What's the advantage with this tapered nylon coupling design over the Pingal nut & nylon washer?
When you say Nylon gasket, do you mean the threaded insert that these petcocks use? I'm super confused on what this kit is 'supposed to' have.
The Pingal I had suffered that problem along with the leak, the bastard would shut off mid ride. It was just old and the lever was worn.
I know what you mean about the Accel petcock being a bit long from the tank, I had to cut my inline out to make gas flow properly.
The Pingal has a simple nut & nylon washer that never leaked on me with or without sealant. I figured with this nylon design that sealant would not be needed, however I am going to drain the tanks and use some Permatex PTFE thread sealant, I hope that holds.
I couldn't find anything on these petcocks, is the design standard for many new petcocks? maybe I'm just familiar with the older nut & nylon washer design.
These are the instructions given with the kit, https://img.jpcycles.com/staticwebfi...df/720-637.pdf
It's confusing. The instructions speak of a 'non stick washer' which was not included with the kit. I'm not sure if the wrong instructions or what. All that was in the package was the petcock, the nut, and the nylon coupling.
I did however thread the nylon coupling down onto the petcock, then installed it with the nut to the bung -- I think I did right, but I don't really know.
I guess some sealant around the tapered petcock thread & female tapered nylon coupling should seal things up.
What's the advantage with this tapered nylon coupling design over the Pingal nut & nylon washer?
When you say Nylon gasket, do you mean the threaded insert that these petcocks use? I'm super confused on what this kit is 'supposed to' have.
Good Luck...
Ps. By Nylon gasket, I meant the flat (white?) non stick washer inside of the nut that goes between the bung, and the fuel valve body. If you didnt get one, that's why you are experiencing problems. Contact Accell and they should make it right. That is essentially the seal between the two mating surfaces. Installed correctly it will never give you problems in the lifetime of the fuel valve.
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And Fram is the most popular Oil filter. Would you put one on your Harley? I never go with the masses. Been let down with that train of thought quite a few times. One drag race where the engine shuts down because the fuel valve shuts off on it's own is too much!
and I cant even imagine anyone having my **** for three months. Even if it was Kim Basinger...lol!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb-OyU2rfJY
and I cant even imagine anyone having my **** for three months. Even if it was Kim Basinger...lol!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb-OyU2rfJY
Been using Pingels for over 30 years... Never had one shut itself off... Street nor Strip...
Bring yer best game to the track and see the "crap" being used... Introduce yerself an I'll Buy you a beer... Make a Couple passes, and I'll get ya some White Dog!!!!!
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BTW Fram is the least used oil filter for Harleys anywhere!!! Certainly at the track..
Been using Pingels for over 30 years... Never had one shut itself off... Street nor Strip...
Bring yer best game to the track and see the "crap" being used... Introduce yerself an I'll Buy you a beer... Make a Couple passes, and I'll get ya some White Dog!!!!!
Been using Pingels for over 30 years... Never had one shut itself off... Street nor Strip...
Bring yer best game to the track and see the "crap" being used... Introduce yerself an I'll Buy you a beer... Make a Couple passes, and I'll get ya some White Dog!!!!!
And Fram is the most popular Oil filter. Would you put one on your Harley? I never go with the masses. Been let down with that train of thought quite a few times. One drag race where the engine shuts down because the fuel valve shuts off on it's own is too much!
and I cant even imagine anyone having my **** for three months. Even if it was Kim Basinger...lol!
and I cant even imagine anyone having my **** for three months. Even if it was Kim Basinger...lol!
Just as I thought it was time to put her on reserve.. her and her mind of her own made that decision 50 miles back... YIKES!