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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 05:28 PM
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on the b carb is the air mixture screw 1.5 turns out ?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 05:47 PM
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It has been a longtime but either 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 turns seems about right to get it going. Then after it is warmed up you turn it out until it starts running bad (sputtering, etc) while keeping track and then turn in; it will run good as it was and continue to turn in until it runs bad (sputters) again keeping track, and then split the difference is how we used to do it.
 
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on the b carb is the air mixture screw 1.5 turns out ?
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It has been a longtime but either 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 turns seems about right to get it going. Then after it is warmed up you turn it out until it starts running bad (sputtering, etc) while keeping track and then turn in; it will run good as it was and continue to turn in until it runs bad (sputters) again keeping track, and then split the difference is how we used to do it.
Read and Understand the S&S tuning Instructions..Blindly deciding yay many turns is ...Blind.. You use the Idle jet to tell ya when/If the Mid jet is Correct!!!
Mike has ya Closer tho...
 

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Read and Understand the S&S tuning Instructions..Blindly deciding yay many turns is ...Blind.. You use the Idle jet to tell ya when/If the Mid jet is Correct!!!
Mike has ya Closer tho...
i saw a you tube vid how its done on a e carb. i was wondering if its the same as a b . so mike is right
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 08:31 PM
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My old B's ran 1-1/2 turns out + or - an 1/8 turn either way if the jet was correct and the carb body wasn't worn causing air leaks. Problem with the older B carb was the shaft for the butterfly and the carb body itself wears out on the cable side, no bushing in the body, allows the butterfly to flutter against the carb throat inside wearing a groove so everything gets sloppy and starts sucking air.. Grab the arm and see if you can move it, any flex it's sucking air and the mixture screw will never set right. Got a bucket with bad B bodies with these issues, any you see at swapmeets or on Ebay, 90% chance that's why they are there.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 09:24 PM
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It was a chore but I found B instructions at S&S. It said the idle mixture screw is close enough from the factory. I know it was somewhere between 1-1/4 and 1-1/2 turns out from memory. I did buy a "B" brand new from S&S back in the day. They say warm it up, set idle between 950-1000, adjust as I said, readjust idle. Then if you ever change the mid range jet, you must repeat the procedure. Also I agree 100% with the wear out factor on the bodies of "B"s at the shaft.
 
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It was a chore but I found B instructions at S&S. It said the idle mixture screw is close enough from the factory. I know it was somewhere between 1-1/4 and 1-1/2 turns out from memory. I did buy a "B" brand new from S&S back in the day. They say warm it up, set idle between 950-1000, adjust as I said, readjust idle. Then if you ever change the mid range jet, you must repeat the procedure. Also I agree 100% with the wear out factor on the bodies of "B"s at the shaft.
my mc mech mate said set it at 1.5 turns out and take it for a ride then pull the plugs for inspection im now running the second lowest intermediate jet as the last plug inspection was too rich and fould the plugs they were black
 
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my mc mech mate said set it at 1.5 turns out and take it for a ride then pull the plugs for inspection im now running the second lowest intermediate jet as the last plug inspection was too rich and fould the plugs they were black
Odd that didn't work...as It sounds Nothing Like the S&S instructions...
 
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my mc mech mate said set it at 1.5 turns out and take it for a ride then pull the plugs for inspection im now running the second lowest intermediate jet as the last plug inspection was too rich and fould the plugs they were black
Warm the bike up or better yet do this after a little ride. At an idle slowly turn the mixture screw in till the engine starts choking, note the screw position. Now turn it out till the engine starts stumbling like its loading up. turn the mixture screw to half way between those two spots and you are set. Shovels and B's like it just a hair on the fat side of the mix and a higher idle since you don't have an accelerator pump for that little boost off idle. Try to tune one to someone's idea of correct plug color will give you headaches around town in stop and go traffic. B's do not tune like other carbs.
 

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Warm the bike up or better yet do this after a little ride. At an idle slowly turn the mixture screw in till the engine starts to choking, note the screw position. Now turn it out till the engine starts stumbling like its loading up. turn the mixture screw to half way between those two spots and you are set. Shovels and B's like it just a hair on the fat side of the mix and a higher idle since you don't have an accelerator pump for that little boost off idle. Try to tune one to someone's idea of correct plug color will give you headaches around town in stop and go traffic. B's do not tune like other carbs.
^^^ Agree...and Note where it ends up, so you can determine if Mid Jet is Close!!! except for "B's do not tune like other carbs"...I tune most all Butterfly Carbs the same, only exception being the Andrews Flowmaster/Butterfly SE, those are an entity of their own!! Note I Never use the Accelerator pump when Tuning...Ever... sometime after Tuning, I leave it OFF.. Gained a Couple Tenths (not a Typo) in the 1/4 mile...
 

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