I bought an Ultima starter off ebay...looks like the Spyke at about 1/3 the cost. My bike has never cranked this good. I have only had it about 6 months so the jury is still out on how long it will hold up...but so far so good.

http://www.ultimaproducts.com/starters1965thru1986.html

 

Yes with your link I ran one down model 70-232 for about 150 on e-bay, nice price, question did you run into any heartaches with the installation ?

Thanks for the link

Ride safe,

cj

 

well, sorry i'm just catchin this thread now, been pretty busy the last couple of days. How ya been CJ, sounds like the bike givin you some attitude, and only 3 years on an All ***** starter? that SUCKS!! Hopefully you get it sorted soon and can get your nose back into the wind

 

Hay bud

Doing better in the past : - ))

Damn I really don’t know if I am more disappointed in the All ***** starter or me for the miss ground wire ? who am I kidding, its me, the only thing (the excuse) that gets me a little past that is the fact besides not paying complete attention is the fact of never in 30 years ever putting anything on the NEG ground terminal of the battery !!! I broke two main rules in
messing with bikes or cars the attention part and the big one.

What was the last thing you did to it ? adding that 20-22 Ga wire on the battery terminal and just under the frame, thinking that I took off the damn ground cable from the frame and that was it : - )

Live and learn and at times I have been living and learning : - ))))

Btw- I e-mail all ***** (damn that sounds lame : ) anyway that was on Sunday I got a reply back today, he wants to talk to me about some “troubleshooting steps” he wants me to take, and I want to tell him about that 224 AMP draw I did months after the starter was installed, the good thing about it, that place is maybe 20 miles as the bird fly’s away from me.

And I found out that Tech Cycle starters is approx the same miles but the other way from me : - ) but they are big time bucks lowest unit from them is $375, but I am more concerned with any mounting problems it’s too close to June 7 vacation to deal with that, so I hope to get the AB going with just an out and in, damn another lame one : - )))

Take care, glad to know one can fall back on the regulars here….

Ride safe,

cj

 

If I were you I wouldn't get down on myself too much about the wire, **** happens to us all. Hopefully the boys at all ***** will help you out a little bit anyways, we'll see I guess. Let us know how it turns out.

 

That is just how I am, when I do something that is just plain stupid I admit it and try to learn from it, it’s not that I am so high and mighty or anything like that, far from it or would ever come down on someone else in a like same position like myself, because like you I do believe in “**** happens” : - ))) it’s just my make up.


As for letting you know how it turns out, that is a given I believe in giving other people lessons learn, like I like reading about them, that was the reason I started that thread when the S&S engine went in and what one can run into too, I came here looking for something like that.


No doubt I will keep you up-dated, even if at times it’s something stupid : - ))))


One of the best things the internet and this site does do, keep people informed !!


Take care,

cj

 

With a stock transmission it would have been a bolt-on...I have a Baker 6 in a 4 speed case...so I had to do a little grinding...no biggee

 

If I go with that starter I guess I am glad my Baker is in natural finish and didn’t spring for the buff out case : - ))))

Thanks for the update that could be important !

cj

 

Well backs up against the wall !!

Here how it stands

New starter relay, even re-placed all circuit breakers after I notice a voltage drop readings between the battery voltage then to the bus bar on the two circuit breaker about 30 points ? so what the hell after almost 30 years I re-place them that’s how is going : - ))

After re-installing the All ***** starter had it out no burn smell seems ok, have a new one but the drive cap that bolts on the primary is a new style has a notch in the cap and a line-up notch in the new starter body, can’t just use my old drive cap must install the new one, here another problem as with my old drive cap I needed two extra holes to be drilled into the drive cap to line-up with my primary so without those extra holes put in by All ***** starters no way I am using this new starter either just inserting the starter body or w/the drive cap, I hope this was clear, best I can do : - ))

Today I started off full charge on the battery 12.88 V, I grounded the spark plug wires together then key on took a voltage reading of the small terminal (relay) on the NOS, OEM solenoid got a reading pushing the start button, when it was cranking I get 7.66 V, not 9 V.

I decided to do an AMP draw test (battery at 12.80 V) on the battery cable to the solenoid while cranking 245 to 250 AMPs, the first test sounded great as with the starter button test, solenoid engage starting fine starter spinning, just into the second test with AMP test (approx 5 seconds long each tests), I notice it’s dragging slow, slower to a stop, I felt the three terminals on the solenoid all three were really HOT, I at once pulled the frame ground strap then unscrewed the battery POS cable.

Man I can use some help here, the only thing I want to do is send an e-mail to All ***** starters ask to drop off the new drive cap to be drill and try the new starter.

Any idea’s ??

cj

Ps: I am going after its again fully charged a load test on the Odyssey battery

 

Sounds like the battery is not up to snuff ...too much voltage drop. If the voltage goes down,amperage goes up...that's why the terminals are hot. Are the battery cables big enough for the starter? Tried jumping it off with a bigger battery? If you get that much drop with a car battery, either the cables are too small...the solenoid is burnt...your have a bad connection in the cables or the starter is bad. I just read your post again....250 amps???? A 1.4k starter should draw around 116. Still say I would look closely at the cables...if you can't find it there the starter is toast. Good luck