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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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Default 2002 Softail Keeps Buring Ignition Switch Pigtail Up

Been a pretty much trouble free bike, until about two months ago, when driving down the road, lost all electrical without warning...
no lights, no start after...

Shop here in town towed it and fixed it, and showed me that the pigtail that plugs into back of ignition switch had melted one of the wires...

They replaced the ignition switch & put a new pigtail on it and I was back on the road again without issue until today again without warning, lost all electrical while going down the road...
no lights, no start after...

This time I had it towed to my house so I could do some personal investigation prior having it towed to shop again...

Pulled out the meter & checked the battery and its fine...

Pulled off the dash and I see the same fricking thing that happened the last time... burnt up pigtail that plugs into back of ignition switch...

Have not found any related threads yet herein or around the interwebs...
so here i am...

I was able to find the ignition switch OEM Part Number: 71313-96

But was unable to find one for the pigtail...
Anybody know what that part number is?

Besides the elusive H-D OEM pigtail part number does anybody have any ideas WTF is going on here?

thanks in advance.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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The only thing that comes to mind is , maybe the voltage reg. Is shot and your getting too high of voltage.
What's the voltage at idle at the battery?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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The only thing that comes to mind is , maybe the voltage reg. Is shot and your getting too high of voltage.
What's the voltage at idle at the battery?
No Lights, No Start...

No-way to check voltage at idle presently, because it won't run or start, I got nothing...

DOA

Battery Voltage at rest is 12.99...
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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My suspicion, and I'm no electrical guy by any stretch, is the switch itself is bad and trying to draw too much power through the pigtail, leading to the melted wires. I am surprised a fuse hasn't blown before the wires melted however. These problems usually start at the end user component, in this case, the switch.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by the blob
The only thing that comes to mind is , maybe the voltage reg. Is shot and your getting too high of voltage.
What's the voltage at idle at the battery?
High voltage by itself would not melt wires.
High amperage is a different story...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 06:47 AM
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I'd suspect a short to ground somewhere downstream of the switch.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 07:04 AM
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Can you trace the burnt wire far enough to get a color or pin assignment in the ignition plug? Looking at a schematic I see three wires. Is that what you see?
 

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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I'd suspect a short to ground somewhere downstream of the switch.
Yep what warp said, between the switch and fuse box. There are two wires that go there the ign and acc. Could be either one. Take off your gas tank and follow them back, as bad as the were burnt should be pretty easy to find the rub area. It will be burnt also.
Did it fry the switch?
 

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Also check the wire (Red/Black) between the fuse box and the starter relay.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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Oh yea Harley does not sell the pigtail but it sells the connector and contacts 72293-94 is just the housing.
 
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