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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 04:32 PM
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Can someone tell me if this sounds like a good deal, or not? Took my fuel injected Heritage in to a mechanic to resolve an issue with bike running lean. He proposed selling me a tuner for $400, including labor for re-flashing and tuning bike. He keeps the tuner. The other option is that I pay full price for the tuner, plus labor, and I keep the tuner. This is a completely stock bike, and I would most likely never use the tuner again. What say you all?
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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what brand/type of tuner? there are several. sounds fishy. also what mods do you have on the bike and what is your reason for getting it "tuned"?
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 04:44 PM
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If it's a flash tune like TTS it is married to your bike and he keeps the tuner you are out of luck if it gets missing or he goes out of business.I would want the tuner to keep with the bike.
 
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It is for a Power Vision. My bike is 100% stock. It is running lean. I believe the only way to change the lean status is with a tuner. I don't know if that means "re-flashing," or "tuning" bike.
 
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^ yup- normally, the best bet is to get a Powervision from FuelMoto and one of their custom tune files. Or, a VH Fuelpak. But the mods on bike and reason for tuning, as well as any planned later changes will dictate the best tuning device. Me personally I would not take that mechanics "deal".
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cgmartine
It is for a Power Vision. My bike is 100% stock. It is running lean. I believe the only way to change the lean status is with a tuner. I don't know if that means "re-flashing," or "tuning" bike.
call Fuel Moto today, now, and talk to them. you are getting bad advice and railroaded by the mechanic. for $449 you get the PV and a custom tune, and ongoing tuning help. that's all you need with a stock bike and it will come in handy when you do stage1 upgrdes later. you can also look at the VH fuelpak, FuelMoto sells it as well. but call them, ask for Jamie. yes you are correct you need a tuner to make those changes - Tuning will not be a "one shot" deal as you'll find as you ride that you may need to tweak things here or there. it's normal.
 
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just so you know, all new HD bikes are fueled very lean for EPA and also the timing in key areas is purposefully retarded (off idle, punching it from a stop light, etc). this purposfeul de-tuning is to help ensure a proper break-in for novice riders and no chance of over lugging the motor. so you not only want better fueling, you want some better timing tables too so the bike feels a bit more responsive.
 
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Originally Posted by cgmartine
Can someone tell me if this sounds like a good deal, or not? Took my fuel injected Heritage in to a mechanic to resolve an issue with bike running lean. He proposed selling me a tuner for $400, including labor for re-flashing and tuning bike. He keeps the tuner. The other option is that I pay full price for the tuner, plus labor, and I keep the tuner. This is a completely stock bike, and I would most likely never use the tuner again. What say you all?
You say it's running lean.
What's it doing to indicate that?

What year is your Heritage?

If it's 2011 or older then shop for a used V&H Fuel Pak.
For under $150 your lean issue is resolved.

If it's a 2012-2016, I'd go with either the Fuel Pak3 and use the autotune to tune the bike.
For $400 you keep the tuner and can re-tune if you change anything else.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/v...rley-2011-2016

If all the mechanical is doing is tuning the bike for $400 you're getting screwed.
 

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Wtf kinda offer is that.? Effed offer that's what
 
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Called Fuel Moto, but Jamie was not available. They really were not able to help me decide, mainly because was case was unique in some aspects. Due to my very limited knowledge of mechanics and would be extremely hesitant messing with fuel tables and changing anything in the ECM. The tuner would sit on the shelf collecting dust afterwards. On the other hand, having a mechanic do all the work is more appealing. My question then is, have any of you paid a mechanic for the tuner and had him do all the work, or do most of you buy and do everything yourselfs?
 
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