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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 04:32 AM
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I'm thinking about putting some SE 203 cams in my '06 deuce and wanted to know how much I would expect to pay. The only thing I have done to it is Big Radius pipes.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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I just ordered everything I need to do an Andrews tw26a install. I'm doing the chain drive version, replacing the tensioners and the inner bearings, and installing adjustable pushrods. Total parts cost comes to $470 shipped. Since I'm doing it myself I ordered the necessary tools as well for a cost of $167 shipped. Total $637.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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ORIGINAL: ToBeFrank

I just ordered everything I need to do an Andrews tw26a install. I'm doing the chain drive version, replacing the tensioners and the inner bearings, and installing adjustable pushrods. Total parts cost comes to $470 shipped. Since I'm doing it myself I ordered the necessary tools as well for a cost of $167 shipped. Total $637.
What tools did you buy?

I spent more like 300$ for the cam tools.

I bought the cam bearing tools along with the press tools.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:14 AM
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What tools did you buy?

I spent more like 300$ for the cam tools.

I bought the cam bearing tools along with the press tools.
I'm going to use the oven method for the outer bearings and the cams.

I bought the following from George's Garage:

Cam Tensioner Unloader TC88 $24.95
Cam/Crank Gear Locking Tool TC88 $24.00
Oil Pump Alignment Screws TC88 $17.50

And a inner cam bearing remover/installer for $91.00 from a guy named Gary Beatty. Someone on v-twinforum used his tool and said it worked great. I emailed Gary and got the following reply along with pictures of the tool. He's shipping it out to me tomorrow.

I make this puller/installer in my home shop as a retirement hobby. I do engine work and needed a cheaper source of tools so I made my own. I put a wrench flat on it to keep it from turning while extracting the bearing. I used light weight aluminum billet for the sleeve, which is counter-bored to match the extractor ( so it won't move around when trying to line-up everything and get the washer and nut on, all inside the small cam compartment). I don't have a nice anodized finish on mine but they do what they are made for. I don't paint them either because it will just come off in the engine.

This is a combination TC inner cam bearing puller/installer. It uses the same remover finger bolt but with a newly designed sleeve that also acts as part of the installer by holding the installer straight with the bearing bore(like a piston in a cylinder). The bearing can then be lightly tapped in using the installer which has a steel rod threaded into it. The installer is designed to put the bearing in at the right depth without distortion. It works super fast with no plates to align or obstruct your view. You can feel and hear when the bearing is installed to proper depth. Fast and simple!

It comes with instructions and you can email me for more pictures if needed.

Prices include shipping( which I had to raise because USPS raised theirs May, 14, 2007).

TC '06(Dyna)-07 with 1.000" id inner bearing $112 ( plus $4 PayPal)

TC '99-06 with .875" id inner bearing $87 ( plus $4 PayPal)

EVO with .812" inner bearing $87 ( plus $4 PayPal)
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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Aside from the price, if you're going to have your cams done, you might as well go with something a little beefier than 203s.I've got them in my bike and the performance change was not too impressive. Don't get me wrong,it's definitely stronger now. I wasn't looking for drag bike performance. I just think I could have gottena lotmore bang for just afew more bucks. Now I'm looking at going back and replacing them with something a littlehotter.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:03 AM
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Hey Spike, i'm getting an 08 FXSTC and was wanting to upgrade the cam. You unhappy with the 203? What others are you looking at? Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Spike,
Who made your seat for you? I was looking at getting something similar for my Deuce. How is it comfort wise? I wasn't sure if the hard leather seats would sacrifice a lot of comfort of if there was even a difference.

Sorry guys. I don't mean to hijack the thread. Just saw a nice seat and was looking for some info. I was also looking into getting some cams for my Deuce one day, so the info on here is helpful to me as well.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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1st the cams... For the setup that I am running, I am looking at probably getting Andrews 37Gs.I would suggest going to a reputable performance shop in your area/region and asking what they reccomend for your application.Most cam makers list all of their cams and what they are best suited for on theirwebsites. Everymechanic that I've spoken to,outside of the dealership, reccomendsusing other manufacturers' performance parts over the Screamin' Eagles. The one benefit to using SE parts is that the dealership will usually include them in your warranty. That being said, you may want to look at one of the more agressive SE cams. If you are only looking formodest gains then 203s are fine.It just sucks to spend the money for the shop time twice when you realize you want more power. It's always best to do it right the first time.

SEAT... I actually did my seat myself. It is an old Lepera that I scored off of a buddy. I don't think it is even made to fit a softail but the lines work with my bike and a little industrial strength velcro holds it on like a champ. It is not the most comfortable seat for any kind oflong distance riding, but the heavy leather doesn't seem to make it any worse than it was when it was vinyl. I have also recovered my stock seat in 9oz. (thick!) leather and it hadlittleeffect on the comfort level.

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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ORIGINAL: spike95

1st the cams... For the setup that I am running, I am looking at probably getting Andrews 37Gs.I would suggest going to a reputable performance shop in your area/region and asking what they reccomend for your application.Most cam makers list all of their cams and what they are best suited for on theirwebsites. Everymechanic that I've spoken to,outside of the dealership, reccomendsusing other manufacturers' performance parts over the Screamin' Eagles. The one benefit to using SE parts is that the dealership will usually include them in your warranty. That being said, you may want to look at one of the more agressive SE cams. If you are only looking formodest gains then 203s are fine.It just sucks to spend the money for the shop time twice when you realize you want more power. It's always best to do it right the first time.

SEAT... I actually did my seat myself. It is an old Lepera that I scored off of a buddy. I don't think it is even made to fit a softail but the lines work with my bike and a little industrial strength velcro holds it on like a champ. It is not the most comfortable seat for any kind oflong distance riding, but the heavy leather doesn't seem to make it any worse than it was when it was vinyl. I have also recovered my stock seat in 9oz. (thick!) leather and it hadlittleeffect on the comfort level.

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That's good to know that Harley adds the Screamin' Eagle cams into the warranty. I didn't know that. I wasn't expecting you to say you did your seat yourself. You did a great job! Is recovering something you do as a business or is it something you just do for fun for your own bike?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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They told me at the dealership that with SE parts installed by their shop, they would honor my warranty. I docover seats for customers. It's just sort of a side job of mine that I wish was full time. You can see more of my work at www.myspace.com/spike88
 
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