Oil Circulation/Pressure/Temp
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No I have not opened the filter up yet. You are correct on the sentimental factor. This has been a real bummer but also has been a good time to reflect on dad and whether I'm working on the bike or riding it, I'm thinking about him, so that's good. And although I'd prefer to keep the stock engine in there, I wouldn't be opposed to swapping another engine in. That way I could take my time rebuilding his and have a backup or possibly build another bike later on. As for shavings making it to the crank area, I was thinking more along the lines of the rear of the cage just having broken off into the case. Hadn't really thought much yet about shavings actually getting pumped in there, but I'm also still learning the way this this oils itself.
Where have you guys found used engines before? Craigslist? Dealer? Is there an online place you've had good luck with? Also, is S&S the company everyone uses for everything (oil pumps, cams, lifters, etc...)? Or rather, any companies to stay away from? I ride pretty easy. My fast day are behind me and I just want to cruise now if anyone has any cam grind recommendations. Thanks.
Where have you guys found used engines before? Craigslist? Dealer? Is there an online place you've had good luck with? Also, is S&S the company everyone uses for everything (oil pumps, cams, lifters, etc...)? Or rather, any companies to stay away from? I ride pretty easy. My fast day are behind me and I just want to cruise now if anyone has any cam grind recommendations. Thanks.
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they pop up on craigslist around here an there's a few places that part out insurance totaled bikes. You can get a used one an build a nice stroker performance motor out of the stock one.
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No way to flush case. No drain in bottom (S&S does). Do buy or find a filter cutter tool (Summit Racing gas them for about $30, unless you are going to split the cases. Even if no debris in filter , remember the filter is in the return after everything has traveled through the motor. You are taking a chance. I had a roller lifter axle shear off on my 62 panhead 15 years ago and I had to replace cam, lifters and oil pump and I took a chance and didn't split cases. Still running OK today. Also take a telescoping magnet and run it all around the bottom of the oil tank.
Good Luck
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Leaning toward pulling it and full tear down. I hate to spend a bunch on parts and not be 100% sure it's not gonna last. Not likely gonna have it back on the road to soon but fortunately Oklahoma stays pretty warm so I can ride on all but the coldest days. I've got a KLR650 to hold me over, but obviously it's not the same. I am kind of excited to tear it apart and see what makes it tick. I'll keep my eyes open for another engine but don't think I can afford another engine and rebuilding this one. I'll try to buy a few parts each paycheck and go from there.
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Made some progress today.
This will give me a chance to get in there and really clean and polish some areas that I otherwise wouldn't be able to get to.
Last edited by Dad'sBike; Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 PM.
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Can someone explain the color coding on pinion gears? I ordered an Andrews EV27 cam and am wondering which pinion bearing I should get to go along with it. I couldn't find any marking on the gear I removed but there is a green paint mark on the pinion shaft. I'm reading that the gears are slightly different sizes but how do you go about picking/measuring the pinion gear with an aftermarket cam? Also all the gears I'm finding show they stop in the late 80s or so. You guys have been great so far. I'll keep doing searches on this stuff but appreciate any wisdom you can share from your previous builds.
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The easiest thing to do is swap the gear from your old cam (as long as that gear wasn`t making noise).
I also suggest that you remove the inner primary cover, and replace all the oil seals on the transmission and inner primary cover since you are down that far.
While the inner cover is off, check the shifter lever and make sure it is tight on the shaft. Tight....anything less will be trouble down the road.
I also suggest that you remove the inner primary cover, and replace all the oil seals on the transmission and inner primary cover since you are down that far.
While the inner cover is off, check the shifter lever and make sure it is tight on the shaft. Tight....anything less will be trouble down the road.
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The easiest thing to do is swap the gear from your old cam (as long as that gear wasn`t making noise).
I also suggest that you remove the inner primary cover, and replace all the oil seals on the transmission and inner primary cover since you are down that far.
While the inner cover is off, check the shifter lever and make sure it is tight on the shaft. Tight....anything less will be trouble down the road.
I also suggest that you remove the inner primary cover, and replace all the oil seals on the transmission and inner primary cover since you are down that far.
While the inner cover is off, check the shifter lever and make sure it is tight on the shaft. Tight....anything less will be trouble down the road.
This is all good stuff but it if you look at the picture of the pinion cam gear, the face of it is pretty chewed up.. I suspect that the cam gear on the current cam gear is not in any shape to be reused.. At that point, I guess you likely have to refit everything which is something I've not done.. Evo motors I worked on I simply swapped parts and used the gears that came on the cams..
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Can someone explain the color coding on pinion gears? I ordered an Andrews EV27 cam and am wondering which pinion bearing I should get to go along with it. I couldn't find any marking on the gear I removed but there is a green paint mark on the pinion shaft. I'm reading that the gears are slightly different sizes but how do you go about picking/measuring the pinion gear with an aftermarket cam? Also all the gears I'm finding show they stop in the late 80s or so. You guys have been great so far. I'll keep doing searches on this stuff but appreciate any wisdom you can share from your previous builds.
Congrats on the bike, sorry about the problems. My advise is do a complete rebuild. Like you said, you don't want to put a bunch of money into it and find out its shot anyway. Once you get it back on the road, your Dad will be proud.
Best of luck.