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Old Mar 30, 2023 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hyoslvr
39 in your picture should be the international model (68925) if you could confirm please?

Yes it is.... but it has a different part number, so it is different then the part for US bikes...

Like I said it MAY work, but I would consult someone at Harley before spending your money on it.... It will cost about $400 for the TSSM and Key FOB...

Here is the page from the parts finder..

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...bc9628468ba2/y


As you can see, it also takes a different Key FOB than the US part number...

Let us know what you find out about it working with US bikes....
 

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Old Mar 30, 2023 | 11:42 PM
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The international one from my understanding automatically sets when you key off. Unlike are USA version that you manually hit the FOB.

I was told it will work on my 04. I assumed Harley reduced their inventory yet kept the one allowed on all models.

Like they said however, that is a question for the dealership.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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Let us know what you find out about it working with US bikes....
I called Ronnies this morning. Guy said he doesn't believe the international one will work. Said they operate at different frequency's and settings. Since they are saying no, it's hard to justify ordering it, not working and getting an I told you so. Reading the service manual I did come across the auto-arming feature Jackie Paper was talking about in 3-13. So that is obviously one difference, but still unsure if their are anymore..
 
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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hyoslvr
I called Ronnies this morning. Guy said he doesn't believe the international one will work. Said they operate at different frequency's and settings. Since they are saying no, it's hard to justify ordering it, not working and getting an I told you so. Reading the service manual I did come across the auto-arming feature Jackie Paper was talking about in 3-13. So that is obviously one difference, but still unsure if their are anymore..

Try calling the mothership. And please don't forget us. The answer to your dilemma has never been answered here yet but been ongoing for a number of years.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 10:39 AM
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Try calling the mothership. And please don't forget us. The answer to your dilemma has never been answered here yet but been ongoing for a number of years.
Mothership? I just called the closest dealer to me, Republic Harley Davidson. They said the same thing ronnie's said, they didn't think it would work.Which is really weird because they originally quoted me $650 for a new tssm installed with 1 fob. I'm guessing that was just a misunderstanding. If you have another number I don't mind calling. as far as the frequency goes I don't see why it wouldn't work if you have a matching fob, especially on a carb bike. I'm an electrician by trade and pretty good at reading drawings. Republic did say the same thing Mr. H said about try to find one new old stock or be sure you can get the pin if it's used.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hyoslvr
Mothership? I just called the closest dealer to me, Republic Harley Davidson. They said the same thing ronnie's said, they didn't think it would work.Which is really weird because they originally quoted me $650 for a new tssm installed with 1 fob. I'm guessing that was just a misunderstanding. If you have another number I don't mind calling. as far as the frequency goes I don't see why it wouldn't work if you have a matching fob, especially on a carb bike. I'm an electrician by trade and pretty good at reading drawings. Republic did say the same thing Mr. H said about try to find one new old stock or be sure you can get the pin if it's used.
1-800-258-2464 Mothership. I'm presently listening to the tunes as they say all representatives are busy. Down to 87% on my battery. But it is also my hotspot and surfing tool..
 
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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie Paper
1-800-258-2464 Mothership. I'm presently listening to the tunes as they say all representatives are busy. Down to 87% on my battery. But it is also my hotspot and surfing tool..
Are you going to ask them the same thing?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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Are you going to ask them the same thing?

I am now heading to option 3. The Representative didn't know but said Option 3 parts and servicing checked such like that.. Be sure you have Vin ready just in case. PS update. After 32 more minutes, I gave up.
 

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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 11:15 AM
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The HDI security module operates on a different radio frequency. As long as you aquire the the HDI fob, there shouldn't be an issue.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...-question.html
 

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Old Mar 31, 2023 | 11:29 AM
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I am now heading to option 3. The Representative didn't know but said Option 3 parts and servicing checked such like that.. Be sure you have Vin ready just in case. PS update. After 32 more minutes, I gave up.
I'm still on hold but I've been reading the manual while waiting and I think I have things figured out. I've looked at the wiring diagram which is rather simple and I see nothing that tells me the hdi model and domestic would be any different as far as that goes, otherwise they would list a separate pinout for the hdi model, which they don't. I'm fairly positive the only real difference is going to be the fact that the hdi model auto arms and this CANNOT be disabled, while the domestic is disabled by default but can be enabled. They list it as an international requirement. The other major difference is the frequency appears to be different which I'm assuming is why they offer an international fob. I'm fairly certain the hdi tssm will work on a domestic bike as long as you match the fobs and accept the fact that auto arming CANNOT be disabled, which I'm not crazy about. I just want confirmation because I could be totally wrong but everything I'm reading leads me to that conclusion.
 
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