Upgrading exhaust
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From: Leander Texas
dito, i like the arlen ness big sucker. check the forum classified for deals on used fuel management
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From: NC
I put the pipes on first, nothing else. Checked the plugs just before the change and have kept my eyes on them since -- probably about 600 miles or so. They look exactly the same, and the bike runs just like it did before, only louder.
Just ordered the SE A/C kit that FuelMoto offers, together with a Power Commander V from them. This should be interesting
Just ordered the SE A/C kit that FuelMoto offers, together with a Power Commander V from them. This should be interesting
T-Makers
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From: Raytown, Mo
so what about just pipes and no AC upgrade? do i need to worry about anything? I'm considering a set of Samson's for my exhaust upgrade. The AC and fuel pak, or power commander or what ever i use is still several months down the road.
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I sent the following email to Nightrider about their XiED and below you will see their reply....
My email to them:
"I am looking to change from stock to Hooker Trouble Makers and a Stage 1 air cleaner and some sort of fuel management on my 2007 FXSTB (Night Train). I am looking to have the bike run cooler as well which is what I like about XiED. Getting the HD stage 1 flash voids the warrenty on the Hooker pipes so that is not an option.
Which would I order...the XiED or the X14iED? If I run either of the 2 is there any need for a Power Commander or any of those other systems? I dont plan to ever tune this on my own. Is there a certain Air Cleaner kit that you guys recommend for best results?"
Their reply to my email:
"The XiED's would be the preferred upgrde for an 07 Softail.
If you are not an aggressive rider or don't care about what a dyno sheet says you get at wide open throttle, there is little reason for anything other than the XiED. You can't ride a dyno sheet (you don't ride your bike at 100% throttle). IED's are effective under 4000RPM and under 40% throttle in closed loop ECM operation, which is about 95% of where the average rider spends his time on the bike.
I actually recommend riders just replace the OEM filter element with the K&N replacement element. You can put a couple of 1/2" holes in the bottom of the black plastic backing to get some extra air flow, but that is all you need. This saves you money and provides all the benefit you need for a bike like yours."
Has anyone tried just replacing the OEM filter instead of replacing the backplate, filter, etc?
My email to them:
"I am looking to change from stock to Hooker Trouble Makers and a Stage 1 air cleaner and some sort of fuel management on my 2007 FXSTB (Night Train). I am looking to have the bike run cooler as well which is what I like about XiED. Getting the HD stage 1 flash voids the warrenty on the Hooker pipes so that is not an option.
Which would I order...the XiED or the X14iED? If I run either of the 2 is there any need for a Power Commander or any of those other systems? I dont plan to ever tune this on my own. Is there a certain Air Cleaner kit that you guys recommend for best results?"
Their reply to my email:
"The XiED's would be the preferred upgrde for an 07 Softail.
If you are not an aggressive rider or don't care about what a dyno sheet says you get at wide open throttle, there is little reason for anything other than the XiED. You can't ride a dyno sheet (you don't ride your bike at 100% throttle). IED's are effective under 4000RPM and under 40% throttle in closed loop ECM operation, which is about 95% of where the average rider spends his time on the bike.
I actually recommend riders just replace the OEM filter element with the K&N replacement element. You can put a couple of 1/2" holes in the bottom of the black plastic backing to get some extra air flow, but that is all you need. This saves you money and provides all the benefit you need for a bike like yours."
Has anyone tried just replacing the OEM filter instead of replacing the backplate, filter, etc?
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Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Northwest Iowa
yes, i have the O2 sensors in the pipes. Im running a stock intake on it for now and see how it goes with a map download from dynojet. Im the type of guy that likes to research and not change more then one thing at a time. i have nothing but time when it comes to my bike. Do it right the first time and be satisfied. hope this helps. I will update after i get the PCIII on this weekend as for results
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No I just took the plunge and have a SE air filter assy. With the XIEDS it is fine runs great and a lot cooler. I picked up a SERT over the winter and will put it on the dyno shortly just to dial it in a little better. I have seen what Nightrider was saying, it does work, your call
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