raked cups
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From: Brick NJ
raked cups
been doing some research on this topic
so far i checked out a few of the online rake and trail calculators
seems i can rake the cups or trees 3* on my softie
before i do this i would like to know a few things
mainly has anybody here raked there front another 3* and if so how does the bike now handle
which method did you use? trees or cups?
whats the process to install raked cups?
looking for a winter project
i do remember seeing a few members bikes here that were raked another 3*
any help is aprreciated!
thanx!
so far i checked out a few of the online rake and trail calculators
seems i can rake the cups or trees 3* on my softie
before i do this i would like to know a few things
mainly has anybody here raked there front another 3* and if so how does the bike now handle
which method did you use? trees or cups?
whats the process to install raked cups?
looking for a winter project
i do remember seeing a few members bikes here that were raked another 3*
any help is aprreciated!
thanx!
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RE: raked cups
No personal experience with raked cups, but can say don't use just raked trees. They'll decrease the trail, probably to an unsafe number. Using raked cups is equivalent to raking the neck. That will increase the trail, which will make the bike handle heavier/slower, especially at low speeds. At highway speeds it will be more stable. But 3 degrees ain't enough to make it a big enough deal to worry about on the low speed end.
Usually raked trees are used in conjunction with a raked neck or raked cups to bring the trail back closer to normal. Check out the numbers using both the raked cups and raked trees.
Usually raked trees are used in conjunction with a raked neck or raked cups to bring the trail back closer to normal. Check out the numbers using both the raked cups and raked trees.
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RE: raked cups
i've got 3 degree cups on mine....good way to go. relatively easy install and the price is right too!! its hard to see the extra rake on mine because i have extended forward controls and they take up some of the extra gap created by the rake........let me know if i can help out....btw, my bike handles great!
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RE: raked cups
Deuce Dude, did you change the lenth of the forks or the tripple trees or is everything else stock on the front end, no handleing problems, I'm interested in the same thing for my 2001 Softail standard.
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RE: raked cups
ok now we are getting somewhere!
i went to the perse calculator and put in the raked cups as if the neck was raked 3*
comes up no good with just a little too much trail
did the same with 3* raked trees and comes up perfect
did it the calculations with 3* cups AND 3* trees also comes up OK
now i am not looking for anything radical like 7* or 5*...........so i feel safe trying 3*
how do you install the cups? just drive out the old ones?
do i need to change anything with my fork lock or fork stops if i am using just 3* cups?
also can somebody describe the front fork fall away test for me? i have both service manuals but they are a little vague
i went to the perse calculator and put in the raked cups as if the neck was raked 3*
comes up no good with just a little too much trail
did the same with 3* raked trees and comes up perfect
did it the calculations with 3* cups AND 3* trees also comes up OK
now i am not looking for anything radical like 7* or 5*...........so i feel safe trying 3*
how do you install the cups? just drive out the old ones?
do i need to change anything with my fork lock or fork stops if i am using just 3* cups?
also can somebody describe the front fork fall away test for me? i have both service manuals but they are a little vague