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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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I have an 06 softail standard with a big sucker intake, V&H Sideshots and FuelPack. No other engine mods have been done yet. I want to get the 95" big bore kit but am curious if the stock 88" cams will work with this set up. I have no intention of keeping the stock cams for too long but do not have the extra $$ to swap cams and jugs at the same time. Since patience is not one of my virtues, I would like to get the top end kit done now and then do the cams this winter.

Anyone else done this? Pros/Cons?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gfergtr74
I have an 06 softail standard with a big sucker intake, V&H Sideshots and FuelPack. No other engine mods have been done yet. I want to get the 95" big bore kit but am curious if the stock 88" cams will work with this set up. I have no intention of keeping the stock cams for too long but do not have the extra $$ to swap cams and jugs at the same time. Since patience is not one of my virtues, I would like to get the top end kit done now and then do the cams this winter.

Anyone else done this? Pros/Cons?

In the long run you'll save money (in labor) by doing the cams and heads at the same time you do the big bore kit. Why tear it apart two or three times?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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The cams are going to give you the most bang for the buck. While you are in there you are going to need to do something with the tensioners, too. Therefore, I would do the cams first. If you do it all at the same time, you can save the cost of the adjustable pushrods.
I know some people will disagree, but the fuelpak can still be used, provided V&Hs has a mapp that matches your set up.
I was in the same situation as you, last year. I decided to save up and buy all of my parts over the year, take a couple of days off work, and do the rebuild in my garage. I got lots of help and ideas from the other members, I mostly needed cheerleaders for my confidence level.
I purchased the HD Stage II bigbore kit with 203 cams, for $400 off Ebay. I ordered the hybrid cam plate for LakeShore HD for about $350, and A thundermax new from a member who never installed it $500. Some other odds and ends such as oil, 02 bungs, inner bearings, and a couple of tools $100. The dealer pressed in my cams for free, autozone free tool rental to remove old bearings, and I used the old cams to install the new inner bearings.
My wife read the directions to me as I turned the wrenches. I think it took me about 20 hours over 4 days to complete the job, but I took my time and checked and rechecked everything.
My point is, if you do the work yourself you will save enough money to do it all at the same time.
 

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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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As others have said, wait and do it all at the same time. I've researched this for over a year, I plan on saving up and doing it all at once.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Wait, or do the cam first.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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thanks for the info guys. I will attempt to work on the patience issue and just do it all at once this winter.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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If Ur have the work done, I'd really suggest U think over what U doing..

I did have the cams done during winter, but most dealers will do BB kits, cams, etc, at a Winter special price. U may be able to get the BBkit and cams plus more at the price U'll be paying just for the BBkit now...

My dealer did the cams, and install with a free dyno 2yrs ago for $795..
Could have done a SE103 with the 203's installed plus free dyno for $1795

Just saying plan it out and U may get a lot more for U money.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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What they said ... I did change the Cam chain tensioners into Hydraulic and got the Andrews 37N with the full kit, got them installed with Adjustable PushRods, Stock 88 Barrel , Heads and Pistons and got good improvement in power (whatever that maybe), I had a previous bike with BigBore kit and could not tell a huge difference really. hey. these things are slow running hogs.. let them run slow
 
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I did the stage 1 the first year then some HQ034 cams(great all around cams btw) the next next year and a full on HQ95st kit for mine the third. If I did it again I would of just went to the full on kit, but learned some along the way to it as I did the work myself and know now what each stage would get me, really like what I have now. Check out protwin .com and they also have a forum there for any questions and help.
 
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Originally Posted by gfergtr74
I have an 06 softail standard with a big sucker intake, V&H Sideshots and FuelPack. No other engine mods have been done yet. I want to get the 95" big bore kit but am curious if the stock 88" cams will work with this set up. I have no intention of keeping the stock cams for too long but do not have the extra $$ to swap cams and jugs at the same time. Since patience is not one of my virtues, I would like to get the top end kit done now and then do the cams this winter.

Anyone else done this? Pros/Cons?
You could do this work in 2 steps, but the cams are usually done 1st and the pistons/cylinders/heads 2nd. Work from the botton up.Choose a cam based on your riding style, i.e. where you want the power in the rpm range and go from there. Eventually, if you do this upgrade, the heads should be worked over to get the right compression ratio that the cam you've chosen requires. The '06 heads are pretty good heads, relatively speaking. There's threads on here about cam changes that will let you know what other parts should be upgraded with a cam change. Same for a 95" upgrade. There a sponsor on here, Hillside, that has a 98" big bore upgrade available. Depending on your budget, have a look or give them a call, Scott's a great guy willing to answer any questions you may have.. They use Wiseco pistons. This work that you're thinking about is do-able in your garage, many guys on here have done it. Be patient, accumulate parts as you have the coin.
 
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