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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bull Dawg
Nope. Why are you so interested?
Because I have told quite a few people that the pipe fits. So if I am wrong, and just got lucky with mine, I would like to know what does not fit. I do not like to spread misinformation. If you can weld and fit pipes then I assume you know what you are talking about, so I was just hoping you would share your knowledge.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 24v
Because I have told quite a few people that the pipe fits. So if I am wrong, and just got lucky with mine, I would like to know what does not fit. I do not like to spread misinformation. If you can weld and fit pipes then I assume you know what you are talking about, so I was just hoping you would share your knowledge.
The pipe and bracket made contact before the flange was in place. Needed to move approximately 1/2" further in and forward. The swingarm and frame was definitely too wide for the bends of the pipe. I read pretty extensively on others experience with fitment. My findings were that it was going to be 50/50 chance of bolting right up. Possibly there is enough manufacturing variation to cause this, but I would hope not. I have only seen one Breakout with this pipe in person, mine. So I don't have knowledge to share beyond my personal findings. If the pipe could have been rotated at the collector a few degrees, I might could have avoided the trouble. I would caution anyone that wants the Big Radius 2-1 on their Breakout that it MAY be more work than simply turning wrenches, but I won't make claims beyond that.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bull Dawg
The pipe and bracket made contact before the flange was in place. Needed to move approximately 1/2" further in and forward. The swingarm and frame was definitely too wide for the bends of the pipe. I read pretty extensively on others experience with fitment. My findings were that it was going to be 50/50 chance of bolting right up. Possibly there is enough manufacturing variation to cause this, but I would hope not. I have only seen one Breakout with this pipe in person, mine. So I don't have knowledge to share beyond my personal findings. If the pipe could have been rotated at the collector a few degrees, I might could have avoided the trouble. I would caution anyone that wants the Big Radius 2-1 on their Breakout that it MAY be more work than simply turning wrenches, but I won't make claims beyond that.
Have you found any others that could not fit this pipe? There are quite a few of them on the CVO forum running them. I wonder if you just got one that was welded on a Monday?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bull Dawg
The pipe and bracket made contact before the flange was in place. Needed to move approximately 1/2" further in and forward. The swingarm and frame was definitely too wide for the bends of the pipe. I read pretty extensively on others experience with fitment. My findings were that it was going to be 50/50 chance of bolting right up. Possibly there is enough manufacturing variation to cause this, but I would hope not. I have only seen one Breakout with this pipe in person, mine. So I don't have knowledge to share beyond my personal findings. If the pipe could have been rotated at the collector a few degrees, I might could have avoided the trouble. I would caution anyone that wants the Big Radius 2-1 on their Breakout that it MAY be more work than simply turning wrenches, but I won't make claims beyond that.
Mine will be here this week, so I serious hope that was an anomaly, as I have 0 welding skills.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Did it fit?

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Mine will be here this week, so I serious hope that was an anomaly, as I have 0 welding skills.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:17 PM
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Did it fit?
Fits nicely on my dining room table.

I'll figure out if it fits the bike on Saturday.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 24v
Have you found any others that could not fit this pipe? There are quite a few of them on the CVO forum running them. I wonder if you just got one that was welded on a Monday?
I wondered if it might be a Monday job. If was more of a pain to return than just cut and splice. I had already sent the first one back for a big dent. I did see a few guys on another forum saying they had problems as well. Oh well, it is on!
 
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Originally Posted by jd_cincy
Fits nicely on my dining room table.

I'll figure out if it fits the bike on Saturday.
Hope it works!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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So here is one for you guys....

Like all of us I had an issue with the fuel gauge being accurate. Months ago I took it in and had the fuel upgrade/recall done. After that it was still inaccurate where my reserve light would come on with 2-3 gallons of gas still in the tank. I took my bike in this morning for a very minor leak in the front master cylinder and asked them to also look at the issue I'm having with the fuel reserve light coming on so early. It wasn't going off at random times or anything, just very early. The master cylinder is a common problem with these bikes and was a quick fix HOWEVER....

After going through extensive diagnostics and having to get harley corp techs on the phone they determined the issue is a bad ECM. The codes it was throwing would keep pointing to the ECM even after they reset several times. They aren't certain that's the fix but did receive authorization from Harley to replace the ECM which is now on order. I voiced my concern that if they replace the ECM I'll loose my current fuel map as the bikes been tuned and the new ECM will have a stock calibration (I don't have the tuner anymore so can't just retune the new ECM. HOWEVER, when they pulled the ECM data to get approval from harley it reported back that the bike was untuned which is just crazy.

The fact that it reported back untuned was a big break because no way harley would replace an ECM without a fight if it's been tuned by a non harley tuner.
I argued I wanted the bike retuned by them on their dime (said I would buy the harley tuner from them but wanted them to handle tuning). After him talking to me like an ******* and having know real desire to find a middle ground to accommodate the customer I lost my cool and a few f bombs were exchanged. I wasn't too happy to bring in a properly running bike with a small gas gauge reading inaccuracy knowing the bike would be returned with a stock fuel map that was not going to work well with my stage 1. Basically a good running bike went in, a poorly running bike comes out. But I cooled down and realized I'll just retune and planned to buy one I prefer over fp3 anyways.

Basically I was given two options
1) because it's reporting as untuned they will continue to fix the issue and replace the ECM under warranty
2) give me the bike back as is and I can live with the fuel reserve issue.

I have no issue with living with the fuel reserve issue but I do have a problem keeping a ECM on the bike that I know is faulty and may lead to even bigger issues in the future when I can't get the work done under warranty.
I went with option 1 and am happy the report read "untuned". I'll deal with re-tuning it later. I also am planning a cam swap and had planned to buy a different tuner. The one I previously used was the FP3. Harley is saying that the fp3 may have caused the ECM issue which I doubt.

Just wanted to bring this to everyone attention....that fuel gauge recall May have more problems than just doing a software update. If your gauge still isn't functioning properly you may want to have it checked
 

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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Vance And Hines Part Number 28019 went on with no major issues. I had to fasten at the mounting bracket prior to tightening at the rear header, otherwise, the large section of the pipe was drawing up against the passenger peg, even with the extension on it. Other than that, the hardest part was starting the nuts on the front header. Sounds and looks great. Very happy with the purchase. I don't see any issues with fitment of this pipe on this bike.

On another note, he FP3 doesn't have a downloadable map for a Breakout with a 2:1, presumably because it's not meant for this model. Because it autosenses the bike model, I can't force it to another Softail. I started out with a Big Radius 2:2 tune and autotuned from there. After about 25-30 minutes of riding, I was stopping periodically to autotune the bike using a FP3. When I got home, the Fp3 was reading an engine oil temp of 325!!! Any ideas on how to tune or correct this?
 
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