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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
The front tire you are considering is narrower than the stock front tire (120 vs 130 mm). And the rear tire is of course wider (250 vs 240). The change will therefore accentuate the difference between front and rear tire width, which will make the bike notably harder to lean into a turn. Is this what you want?

I rode a Victory Ness edition which had a narrow front tire and the 240 rear, and it took notably more effort to turn than the stock Breakout. Naturally, there are probably other differences in the bike geometries, etc, but man, it was notably harder to turn.

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Understood, and thanx for the advice. As long as the bike will counter-steer, I think I'll be ok. This Breakout is my first motorcycle and was a chore when maneuvering at slow speeds (for me) till I switched to the apes. Since then, it all seems easy.

I can get an Elite 3 240 rear tire of course, but I noticed here, that the switch to the wider (lets face it buyers of the BO like the wide tire ) 250 tire was doable. I haven't found the aftermarket equivalent of the stock front tire yet so thought the 120 might do if its aspect isn't a problem for fitment.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Understood, and thanx for the advice. As long as the bike will counter-steer, I think I'll be ok. This Breakout is my first motorcycle and was a chore when maneuvering at slow speeds (for me) till I switched to the apes. Since then, it all seems easy.

I can get an Elite 3 240 rear tire of course, but I noticed here, that the switch to the wider (lets face it buyers of the BO like the wide tire ) 250 tire was doable. I haven't found the aftermarket equivalent of the stock front tire yet so thought the 120 might do if its aspect isn't a problem for fitment.
In that case, check to ensure that the rim width on the bike (it is marked right on the rim somewhere if you cannot find the width anywhere else quickly) is compatible with the narrower tire, by checking the Dunlop website. I mention this because when you use a narrower tire on a rim, you change the profile of the tire: you make the "sidewalls" of the tire "more vertical". This can have a pronounced effect on handling. The tire manufacturer site always for this reason gives you the acceptable "limits" on rim width. In addition, in this specific case, coupling that effect with already going to a wider rear tire and narrower front tire as well, you are going to get an amplified change. Perhaps someone with better "handling" expertise than me can predict the effects of the simultaneous changes being made? (wider rear tire, narrower front tire, front tire sidewalls being forced more vertical)

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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
In that case, check to ensure that the rim width on the bike (it is marked right on the rim somewhere if you cannot find the width anywhere else quickly) is compatible with the narrower tire, by checking the Dunlop website. I mention this because when you use a narrower tire on a rim, you change the profile of the tire: you make the "sidewalls" of the tire "more vertical". This can have a pronounced effect on handling. The tire manufacturer site always for this reason gives you the acceptable "limits" on rim width. In addition, in this specific case, coupling that effect with already going to a wider rear tire and narrower front tire as well, you are going to get an amplified change. Perhaps someone with better "handling" expertise than me can predict the effects of the simultaneous changes being made? (wider rear tire, narrower front tire, front tire sidewalls being forced more vertical)

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Again, Understood and Thanx.

I'll check the rim against the Dunlop specs. The aspect is already 70 vs 60 which is sort of my concern. I'd actually prefer to keep the 130 but don't want to pay the dealer $C 200 for a "Bias" front tire when I can get a longer lasting "Radial" for 70 bux less.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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Again, Understood and Thanx.

I'll check the rim against the Dunlop specs. The aspect is already 70 vs 60 which is sort of my concern. I'd actually prefer to keep the 130 but don't want to pay the dealer $C 200 for a "Bias" front tire when I can get a longer lasting "Radial" for 70 bux less.
Frogive me, because I am not a tire expert and also don't remember specs beyond a microsecond, but you are not intending to mix radial and bias ply tires on the same bike are you? That is, I believe, a no-no.

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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
Frogive me, because I am not a tire expert and also don't remember specs beyond a microsecond, but you are not intending to mix radial and bias ply tires on the same bike are you? That is, I believe, a no-no.

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I believe the Breakout comes that way. It took me by surprise too.

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[QUOTE Rake (steering head) (deg) 35
Trail 5.7 in.
Wheelbase 67.3 in.
Tires, Front Specification 130/60B21 63H
Tires, Rear Specification 240/40R18 79V
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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120/70 fits fine. There are already a few others running that size with no issue.
 
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120/70 fits fine. There are already a few others running that size with no issue.
"Thanx", I hoped as much.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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I'm about to install a axle out license plate bracket soon. Do i need a rear alignment tool or is it as simple as unbolting installing the mount and torqueing it down.
 
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So, I've learned that a 25mm front axle fits all Touring Bikes as well as the Softails (Breakout included).

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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 06:10 AM
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