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Road Master
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 2
From: PA
You'd better find out EXACTLY what they plan to do before you agree to their doing it.
To reproduce the fly by wire system of the CVO, they would need to add or replace all of the following:
- Electronic throttle grip assembly versus cable grip assembly
- Wiring run from ECU to electronic throttle grip assembly
- Electronic versus mechanical throttle control on intake manifold
- Wiring from ECU to new electronic throttle control on intake manifold
- New software for ECU (assuming your existing ECU can accept it)
- New custom tune (since the CVO software is coded for a 110 versus 103 engine, AND the electronic throttle intake assembly is different in size than on the 103 I think)
-etc
-etc
This is totally unrealistic for a local HD dealership to do.
And, even if they somehow managed to do it, and you had the $$$ to pay for it (WAY more than $1200 to $1500), you'd then have a non-standard bike that would make future diagnostics "challenging" for an HD technician, especially one at a dealership that did not do the work, and therefore doesn't get what was done.
Like another poster has suggested, look for a different cruise control solution. I'm very serious.
Jim G
To reproduce the fly by wire system of the CVO, they would need to add or replace all of the following:
- Electronic throttle grip assembly versus cable grip assembly
- Wiring run from ECU to electronic throttle grip assembly
- Electronic versus mechanical throttle control on intake manifold
- Wiring from ECU to new electronic throttle control on intake manifold
- New software for ECU (assuming your existing ECU can accept it)
- New custom tune (since the CVO software is coded for a 110 versus 103 engine, AND the electronic throttle intake assembly is different in size than on the 103 I think)
-etc
-etc
This is totally unrealistic for a local HD dealership to do.
And, even if they somehow managed to do it, and you had the $$$ to pay for it (WAY more than $1200 to $1500), you'd then have a non-standard bike that would make future diagnostics "challenging" for an HD technician, especially one at a dealership that did not do the work, and therefore doesn't get what was done.
Like another poster has suggested, look for a different cruise control solution. I'm very serious.
Jim G
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 211
Likes: 1
From: West Sussex, England
It's on my breakout so thought I'd post link here, akrapovic exhaust, k&n filer and remap.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/exhau...-into-1-a.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/exhau...-into-1-a.html
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 318
Likes: 24
From: London, UK
It's on my breakout so thought I'd post link here, akrapovic exhaust, k&n filer and remap.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/exhau...-into-1-a.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/exhau...-into-1-a.html
There are other options other than vance and hines. Look around a little.
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 318
Likes: 24
From: London, UK
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,710
Likes: 528
From: Lethbridge, Alberta Canada
Yeah - I've been looking through all of the options (and discussions on here) with interest. So far, the V&H Big Radius 2 into 2 is my favourite. I do like some of the other stuff but the only serious alternative contender, for me, is this Akropovic system. But I will keep looking......
The reason for asking is that while both configurations will provide about equal peak power, the balance chamber equipped configuration GREATLY improves low rpm torque.
I replaced a non-V&H true 2 into2 system with a V&H balanced chamber equipped 2 into 2 on my last bike, a Honda VTX 1800 big twin, and the difference in low rpm power and torque was profound.
Jim G
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 2
From: PA
Is the Vance & Hines system you are considering a true 2 into 2, or does it have a hidden balance chamber between the 2 pipes?
The reason for asking is that while both configurations will provide about equal peak power, the balance chamber equipped configuration GREATLY improves low rpm torque.
I replaced a non-V&H true 2 into2 system with a V&H balanced chamber equipped 2 into 2 on my last bike, a Honda VTX 1800 big twin, and the difference in low rpm power and torque was profound.
Jim G
The reason for asking is that while both configurations will provide about equal peak power, the balance chamber equipped configuration GREATLY improves low rpm torque.
I replaced a non-V&H true 2 into2 system with a V&H balanced chamber equipped 2 into 2 on my last bike, a Honda VTX 1800 big twin, and the difference in low rpm power and torque was profound.
Jim G
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 631
Likes: 26
From: Rome (Italy)
Cruiser
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Denver CO
To chime in here I was thinking of retrofitting my V&H BR 2x2 with a crossover or power chamber I still need to work out the details but seems like it would be a worth wile.