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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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It had a V&H fuel pak on it when I bought it, but my indy took it off and said it wasnt doing anything for me. I didnt know those two items could add 20%, that seems high. But i really dont know any better, I just ride the **** outta her. I figured the 103" being over 200cc's more than mine would have more *****, but not that case at all. I realize im talking about a stocker, but I was hoping for a rush since ive never been on a 103 before.

So then, to me, this is opinion here.....the larger engine displacements are "selling point" then.. because they obviously dont perform like the number suggests. I was thinking, yea, im gonna start it, its gonna sound awesome and its gonna rip through gears and make me say, wow, i should buy one.

None of those things happened, could barely hear it with stock pipes, no get up and go even when droppin a gear and I wouldnt buy one unless someone else already dumped 10k in upgrades on it.

So if I keep my cleaner and pipes, and add aggressive cams and ported heads, ill have a mini monster ?
I hear you brother- My BO is a bit pokey but I totally expected that from a stock HD 103. Plus as Jim mentioned the tall gearing really kills it. I plan to investigate if the Tri-glide 30t sprocket will be a direct bolt on- there is enough belt adjustment to accommodate it.

You can definitely get plenty of grunt out of the 103- but please be sure you work with someone knowledgeable on the upgrades. Stage 4 race kit, upping compression to 10.5:1, proper tune, and 30t sprocket should make for a very fun bike. You will definitely need better pipes and intake to take full advantage of engine upgrades.

I've been looking into upgrades for my BO, I may have a problem getting any dealer in CA to install the Stage 4 Race Kit since it is not "CA Approved", and HD does not offer the Stage 4 Street Kit for the BO. I was talking to the senior tech at my local HD- they do a lot of performance upgrades on factory bikes - and their tech said if the kit was a no-go then they can just put together a very good "kit" for me from catalog parts. 259, 251 or 204 cams, high-comp pistons, larger TB, etc, and get my 103 into the 110hp/tq arena. plus it will not mess with the bike warranty.
 

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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Nice.
Do it. Because the stoker is no good, well for me it was a fail.
I like the bid dog bark my 88 has. If I did cams, they would have to be ones that I would need to change if I did more motor work in the future. Right now shes a stock 88 and I think it rips.

I will say that i did like the stock front suspension. I was pushing it down before we rode and I was like wow, nice and soft depression and rebound. I pretty much gave up my front travel with the drop ins to lower it. The BO has larger diameter fork tubes anyway.
 

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jcallesano
The BO has larger diameter fork tubes anyway.
The Breakout fork assembly is also 1.5" wider than any other Softail, in order to accommodate that wide front tire. There is a GREAT deal of subtlety built into the Breakout design. The more I learn about it, the more impressed I become.

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Putting that front end on mine.....is something id do.
I highly dislike the 2.15 front rim or whatever it is. Just dont want to dish $$ for rims, because they cost too much for what they are. Custom rims are $1300+ F-that. So many mods you can do for that or memories you can make for that kind of cash.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
The Breakout fork assembly is also 1.5" wider than any other Softail, in order to accommodate that wide front tire. There is a GREAT deal of subtlety built into the Breakout design. The more I learn about it, the more impressed I become.

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Jim, where did you get this information? The Breakout forks are the same width as other Softails. That is why they all use the exact same front axle. The difference is other Softails (except the Rocker)use 41mm fork tubes where the Breakout uses 49mm tubes.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jcallesano
Putting that front end on mine.....is something id do.
I highly dislike the 2.15 front rim or whatever it is. Just dont want to dish $$ for rims, because they cost too much for what they are. Custom rims are $1300+ F-that. So many mods you can do for that or memories you can make for that kind of cash.
Why not just have your hub and spokes relaced on a wider rim? I bet you could get away for a few hundred that way.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 24v
Jim, where did you get this information? The Breakout forks are the same width as other Softails. That is why they all use the exact same front axle. The difference is other Softails (except the Rocker)use 41mm fork tubes where the Breakout uses 49mm tubes.
24V, I don't understand how the forks assembly can be equal width, but the forks be larger diameter, and still use the same axle. By definition, if the fork spacing were the same, the larger diameter forks must necessitate a longer axle. ????

And, I have seen in multiple road test review a mention of the fork assembly on the Breaskout being wider.

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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24V, I don't understand how the forks assembly can be equal width, but the forks be larger diameter, and still use the same axle. By definition, if the fork spacing were the same, the larger diameter forks must necessitate a longer axle. ????

And, I have seen in multiple road test review a mention of the fork assembly on the Breaskout being wider.

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The difference in diameter is 8mm per side. I'm guessing they just recess the axle mounting point by that on each side.
You don't have to take my word for it, look here.
http://www.cyclecityltd.com/oempartf...|~1|~OF|~2\BFV

http://www.cyclecityltd.com/oempartf...|~1|~OF|~2\JPV

That is a Blackline vs a Breakout. #18 is the axle part number. It is 41547-07A.

That same axle is also used by the touring bikes as well as the Dyna Wideglide, and the Dyna Fatbob.
 

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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I love the breakout. Last time we were at the dealership the wife was begging me to buy one. I just can't do it though. The rear fender just kills it for me. It looks so uneven to me. With the raked front and good flow throughout the whole bike, until the rear fender. Everything just comes to a halt. It just stops. I can't get past it. It needs like another 6 to 8 inches I think.
 
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Originally Posted by 24v
The difference in diameter is 8mm per side. I'm guessing they just recess the axle mounting point by that on each side.
You don't have to take my word for it, look here.
http://www.cyclecityltd.com/oempartf...|~1|~OF|~2\BFV

http://www.cyclecityltd.com/oempartf...|~1|~OF|~2\JPV

That is a Blackline vs a Breakout. #18 is the axle part number. It is 41547-07A.

That same axle is also used by the touring bikes as well as the Dyna Wideglide, and the Dyna Fatbob.
24V, I think you are correct because I misread the following Cycle World road test quote:

"Keeping with the straight-line theme, a drag-bend handlebar mates to 49mm fork legs spread 1.75 inches wider than on previous FX models to allow the fatter front rubber."

Note the "1.75" wider spacing" of the Breakout is versus the previous FX models, not all softails. Sorry for the error.

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