Softail Models Standard, Custom, Night Train, Deuce, Springer, Heritage, Fatboy, Deluxe, Rocker and Cross Bones.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

How important is the compensator sprocket?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 13, 2014 | 07:55 PM
  #41  
Greezey Rider's Avatar
Greezey Rider
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 2,500
From: Tennessee
Default

Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Why? Was something improved?

Yes....I've never had a compensator failure.
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2014 | 11:10 PM
  #42  
cdonis's Avatar
cdonis
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,245
Likes: 297
From: Escalon ca
Default

Jim, not quit sure on the compensater deal, but you would love the pv2.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2014 | 04:35 AM
  #43  
Warp Factor's Avatar
Warp Factor
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,217
Likes: 90
From: Detroit
Default

Originally Posted by Greezey Rider
Yes....I've never had a compensator failure.
I suppose that would be true for anything you remove... headlight, taillight, seat, engine....
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2014 | 05:47 AM
  #44  
Greezey Rider's Avatar
Greezey Rider
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 2,500
From: Tennessee
Default

Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I suppose that would be true for anything you remove... headlight, taillight, seat, engine....
I suppose you're right...But then, the bike would be useless without any of those things.
On the other hand, the compensator is as worthless a part as has ever been put on a motorcycle, and is more than a little bit prone to having problems.
I put 300,000 miles on one of my FXR's without the compensator and have put many, many thousands of miles on all of the other Harleys, I've owned without the compensator.
It's a heavy, useless piece of junk, that has no discernible effect on the performance characteristics of the bike....Just replace it with a sprocket and be done with it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2015 | 08:34 PM
  #45  
rock111559's Avatar
rock111559
2nd Gear
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 3
From: Wisc
Default Compensating Sprocket not needed...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161742913802...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

That company also makes a 25 tooth... and other company's make 30 and 32 tooth.......... LOOK !!!!!!

Come on guys, really?
Open primary's and even enclosed belt drive systems don't run compensating sprockets.

Drag Specialties Tech
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2015 | 09:42 AM
  #46  
JimGnitecki's Avatar
JimGnitecki
Thread Starter
|
Stellar HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,710
Likes: 529
From: Lethbridge, Alberta Canada
Default

Originally Posted by rock111559
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161742913802...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

That company also makes a 25 tooth... and other company's make 30 and 32 tooth.......... LOOK !!!!!!

Come on guys, really?
Open primary's and even enclosed belt drive systems don't run compensating sprockets.

Drag Specialties Tech
The smoothness, and the durability, of custom bikes with open primarys and enclosed belt drives are not exactly wonderful . . .

When you talk to virtually anyone who has owned one, the story is always the same: lovely to look at, ok for very short trips to the local hangout, but no way comfortable and no way reliable.

Jim G
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2015 | 11:32 PM
  #47  
FurryOne's Avatar
FurryOne
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 953
Likes: 127
From: Rome, NY
Default

Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
The smoothness, and the durability, of custom bikes with open primarys and enclosed belt drives are not exactly wonderful . . .
You obviously didn't talk to me.

When you talk to virtually anyone who has owned one, the story is always the same: lovely to look at, ok for very short trips to the local hangout, but no way comfortable and no way reliable.
The BO isn't a long trip bike to begin with, but not having a compensator is something you just get used to - like the difference between solid & rubber engine mounts. My setup is geared for stop & go, so when I'm cruising at 70 my rpm's are higher than stock at 3K, but I don't usually do much faster around here.

As for reliability - buy a good product and it will last. Buy a cheaper made product made from softer material that depends on lots of red Locktite and you'll get what you paid for. I went with an R-P belt primary, and yes, the Rocker and BO are the same offset. The only thing I'd do different would be to go with a 2" wide belt instead of the 3" for more clearance.
 
Attached Thumbnails How important is the compensator sprocket?-img_0833.jpg  
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 06:31 AM
  #48  
Warp Factor's Avatar
Warp Factor
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,217
Likes: 90
From: Detroit
Default

Originally Posted by rock111559

Come on guys, really?
Open primary's and even enclosed belt drive systems don't run compensating sprockets.

Drag Specialties Tech
For some reason, every manufacturer of big twin engines has gone to the trouble and expense to put them on. Maybe it's just to reduce vibration for comfort, but it would also reduce shock loads from cylinder firing and crankshaft inertia to the primary, transmission, and rear drive chain or belt.

Even manual transmission cars have a form of this, incorporated into the clutch plate.

It might be a little like torsional vibration dampers on automotive crankshafts. These greatly extend parts life by reducing twisting of the crankshaft, and transferring power more smoothly (less jerking) to camshaft drive components .
 

Last edited by Warp Factor; Oct 30, 2015 at 06:38 AM.
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 09:50 AM
  #49  
roddenby51's Avatar
roddenby51
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 155
Likes: 9
From: Live Oak, FL
Default

Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
The smoothness, and the durability, of custom bikes with open primarys and enclosed belt drives are not exactly wonderful . . .

When you talk to virtually anyone who has owned one, the story is always the same: lovely to look at, ok for very short trips to the local hangout, but no way comfortable and no way reliable.

Jim G
Comfortable and reliable... 3" R-P Brute IV and Pro Clutch, S&S V111, Baker DD 5-speed, chain final. This is my everyday ride as well as my rally scoot.

 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2015 | 01:18 PM
  #50  
oct1949's Avatar
oct1949
Club Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 145,895
Likes: 821
From: 40 miles Northeast of Indy..
Default

Just thinking.. any HD in a really tight RH turn,, you may have to slip the clutch...

If you're getting 51mph out of 1st gear.. then accordingly to the RPM VS MPH Calculator I have, your winding you ""B"" motor around -- 6500 -- rpm's..
If so, then I am thinking unless you've had you crank welded and beefed up I question your or the tuner's decision to allow the engine wind that high of rpm's.

I think the 14's have the Se comp in them.. If right. your can't get much better..
I think the comp helps mostly on startups and then during high TQ applications while running under loads...

In the yrs past in here, their have been Many threads on changing the gearing..

Do a Google Search on your questions if you don't get the answers you want in here.. and I am sure you'll find more info than you can read about how and why...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:21 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE