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Stage 1 question
Hi guys,
Recently purchased a 2012 Heritage Softail to add to the collection. The bike is stock right now and I wanted to make some changes.
I have a Stage 1 air cleaner for it and wanted to get a full exhaust system (probably Samson 39" un-baffled fish tails. I want it to be realllllyyyyyy loud). I also have a Harley Pro Tuner that I can connect to this if need be. Id like to do all of the work myself if possible and not take it to the dealer for anything. Is this even possible?
If I install the exhaust and stage 1 air cleaner myself, and really need a new download or install the PC, is it safe to ride it for 10 minutes to the dealer or will I have to trailer the bike?
Your feedback is appreciated.
Recently purchased a 2012 Heritage Softail to add to the collection. The bike is stock right now and I wanted to make some changes.
I have a Stage 1 air cleaner for it and wanted to get a full exhaust system (probably Samson 39" un-baffled fish tails. I want it to be realllllyyyyyy loud). I also have a Harley Pro Tuner that I can connect to this if need be. Id like to do all of the work myself if possible and not take it to the dealer for anything. Is this even possible?
If I install the exhaust and stage 1 air cleaner myself, and really need a new download or install the PC, is it safe to ride it for 10 minutes to the dealer or will I have to trailer the bike?
Your feedback is appreciated.
Road Warrior
Joined: Feb 2011
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First off, congrats on the new bike. Post a picture so we can all see it.
You can easily install the air cleaner and exhaust by yourself. A new tune is a must, though. I'm not familiar with the HD tuner you have, but if you can tune it yourself, then do it. If you absolutely have to take it to a dealer for them to use the Pro Tuner, you'll be fine riding it a short distance on the stock tune.
Good luck!
You can easily install the air cleaner and exhaust by yourself. A new tune is a must, though. I'm not familiar with the HD tuner you have, but if you can tune it yourself, then do it. If you absolutely have to take it to a dealer for them to use the Pro Tuner, you'll be fine riding it a short distance on the stock tune.
Good luck!
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2009
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Just clarifying something.. You said you have a harley pro tuner to connect if need be. Is this one that you got specifically for this bike, or second hand? Reason I mention this is that once they are used on a bike, that's it. The tuner is married to the ECM and will only ever work on that specific ECM. If you bought it new for the bike or got it with the bike, then it shouldn't be an issue.
Also, riding to the dealer with your A/C and pipes on won't be a problem at all. It's the extended miles in the lean condition that will cause issues down the road.
Also, riding to the dealer with your A/C and pipes on won't be a problem at all. It's the extended miles in the lean condition that will cause issues down the road.
Road Master
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I'm echoing all the previous post and adding the following. Samson has a poor company reputation these days. Frankly, I don't know how they still remain in business. You may want to consider another brand of exhaust. Vance and Hines has a quality set of Duals but not the length you want.
When mounting your new pipes, insure that you install a new set of exhaust gaskets. Loosely connect and align everything then perform final torquing starting from the front and working rearward. You want Loud? Many guys try to run open pipes only to discover a significant power loss. Check out Big City Thunder Baffles.
I once tuned a bike with the SE Pro Tuner. Most difficult system I've ever used and the canned maps that Harley offers are, in my opinion, insufficient. For the price you'll pay to have it Dyno tuned you might as well invest in a Power Vision tuner. The PV will give you total control of the fuel management system.
When mounting your new pipes, insure that you install a new set of exhaust gaskets. Loosely connect and align everything then perform final torquing starting from the front and working rearward. You want Loud? Many guys try to run open pipes only to discover a significant power loss. Check out Big City Thunder Baffles.
I once tuned a bike with the SE Pro Tuner. Most difficult system I've ever used and the canned maps that Harley offers are, in my opinion, insufficient. For the price you'll pay to have it Dyno tuned you might as well invest in a Power Vision tuner. The PV will give you total control of the fuel management system.
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I only wish I knew then what I know now...
Hell, I even sprung for the cables and CD software.
What a waste.
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IN the right hands the SERT and SEpST are really excellent turners. Those who turn with have to go to school to learn it.. Not for the average garage mechanic to use..
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