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Stage IV
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Hello everyone, I currently own what I am told is a 2010 xl883 iron on a now 2006 frame, and was on a 2004 frame before I switched it over. My problem did not come from the change over, it came shortly after when putting on a new but stock turn signal. I bought the turn signal from a local cycle shop, but the signal only had 2 wires, and the bike has 3, one for running, one for flashing, and then the negative. Well, in the process of trying to figure out how to make the 2 work for the 3 (i know i should have just went and got a new signal) I somehow crossed the positive, running light wire with the negative wire, and heard a weird click. Now the turn signals will turn on, but none will flash, the bike will not start, but when I turn it over and press the run switch to on I can hear it pressurize or whatever it is that it does. I'm new to the motorcycle world, and don't want to go buying parts I don't need.. i have checked the fuses, they seem fine. From what i have read it may be the TSM or TSSM whatever is on the bike, but i don't know how to be certain because the speedo will not illuminate to run a diagnosis code test. Thanks for any feedback!
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All the parts, are from a 2010 year model. The bike was wrecked, insurance totaled it out, made it an un-registerable title. The bike was switched to a new frame, that had a title of its own, re-registered as a different year model. It now sits on a 2006 frame. Also, how could it be a burnt out bulb? lol, ever light comes on, they just will no flash anymore, and it bike won't start.
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So to recap... you got your wires crossed and now the turn signal will come on but won't flash... and your bike powers up but won't turn over... do you even get a click or an attempt to turn over, or you just turn the key and nothing? Do both sides of your bike do this (left and right side signals both illuminate?) If all bulbs are lit, then it's most likely the mechanism that allows the flashing... a relay or turn signal module is blown.
Many times a solid bulb is indicative of a blown bulb elsewhere... so check all the bulbs to be sure you didn't blow one.
As far as the bike not turning over, if you have battery power (which it sounds like you do with the lights and noises) and it just isn't making a sound, you may have blown the starter also...
Just a thought.
Many times a solid bulb is indicative of a blown bulb elsewhere... so check all the bulbs to be sure you didn't blow one.
As far as the bike not turning over, if you have battery power (which it sounds like you do with the lights and noises) and it just isn't making a sound, you may have blown the starter also...
Just a thought.
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Here's some reading on non-flashing turn signals and some things to check:
http://www.harley-davidsonforums.com...ont-flash.html
http://www.harley-davidsonforums.com...ont-flash.html
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yes, that is all correct. when i turn over the ignition i hear the fuel pump preasurize but when i try to start the ignition nothing happens. All the bulbs are on and running, so its not a blown bulb. From what i have read, if it is a TSSM installed on the bike currently and it blew than the bike wouldn't turn over, but im unsure as to if it is a TSSM or TSM, and dont really want to purchase a new one if i cant be sure that is it. Was hoping someone out there has had some experience here.
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Sounds a lot like what you're describing here...
http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php?topic=28083.0
http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php?topic=28083.0
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From: kelowna b.c.
First thing is to pull the two wire signal light out. You need a three wire in there. If to is a stock Harley light then you can change the guts out to a dual filament bulb. You have a ground and a hot wire for signal and a hot wire for clearance light. Double check all fuses. In hook whatever you hooked up and run a test light on the wires. That will show you which is signal and which is run. If all fuses are good, you may have fried your tssm/tsm. Only difference is if your bike has security. If you don't have a key fob you have a tsm.