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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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Because the bike runs lean from the factory, adding a stage 1 air kit will just add to the problem. So, Im thinking about buying a tuner first then filter and pipes.

Thanks for your help!
If money wasn't a problem for the original OP, he wouldn't be doing his Stage1 mod one step at a time.

For his needs I still stand by FM Micro since he modding his bike in three steps.
The FM Micro with 3 maps select-ability will allow him with a twist of a dial to switch maps as he adds his other Stage 1 mods.
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Are you reading your own posts? You called me cheap( you are), then you looked at my Sporty and said stop the madness. Those two comments contradicted each other. stop the madness had nothing to do with what you spent on the sportster... it was that fact that you are bragging on sportster performance.

He starts that video stating now that we've gone through all these updates, etc. When I say 5 minutes I mean 5 minutes from pulling it out the box to riding the bike away. updates are not a must please stop trying to prove me wrong. you've never used it shut it up.

You spent more money, time, and effort and you have no tangible reasons why? You're proving my original point. You tune a bike to make it run well after some modifications to intake/exhaust or you tune it for max performance. As it stands now, both my wife's bike and your bikes (how do you know that?)arrived at the former but her's did so for less money, time and effort. I personally chose the latter route and tuned mine for performance at which point a butt dyno is insufficient. That, and your incessant need to insult my "cheapness" is why I posted my old numbers for you. (you are cheap)

As for the performance comments: What you choose to do with your bike and what I choose to do with mine are completely different. (Fair enough and you get full respect there) However, with nothing but a picture of mine to go off of you're simply talking out of your 'dyno' when you compare it to those other bikes.... so your bike is beating down cbrs, ducatis, and such? that's pure bs. you need to stop right there. it's not and you damn well know it, how dare you get up on here and post that bs. gtfoh, you went too far
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Guzzi
If money wasn't a problem for the original OP, he wouldn't be doing his Stage1 mod one step at a time.

For his needs I still stand by FM Micro since he modding his bike in three steps.
The FM Micro with 3 maps select-ability will allow him with a twist of a dial to switch maps as he adds his other Stage 1 mods.
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Guzzi... being arrogant and wrong.... mr. turbo:
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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cheap/non cheap/best aside, the FP3 doesn't need to be plugged in, and can do an actual flash from everything I've read.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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Wow, I only ask about the better tuner for the money (Money is a factor) - and I was really entertained

So, this is what I am getting about the PV - FP3- Fuel Moto:
Power Vision is $434 and the FP3 is $300 on Amazon. Both do the same thing, but the PV comes with an LCD screen. (I have a smart phone, so why would I pay the extra for VP?) Fuel Moto is cheaper $199 pre loaded maps and only 3 options of maps savable.

What does the PV do the FP3 does not do? other than have the LCD screen? The only changes I will be making on performance is pipes and airfilter - and may buy the air filter and tuner together.


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I literally just installed the fp3 a few minutes ago. I'll let you know what I think tomorrow. I have a stage 1 AC and V&H big radius 2 into 2 pipes.
How did it go?
 
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Totally agree dealer flash is not worth the $$. Even if we don't put a stage 1 on our bikes, they'll run better with a tuner (PV, FP3, Micro, PC, SERT) or Dyno on just a flat stock set-up.

Also I think FP3 has improved functions/capabilities over previous FPs making it a more competitive product for the $. Older FP was not as impressive, but the FP3 is a whole different animal compared to older models. PV still a great choice you'd never grow out of, but also know personally I'll not build past the FP3 capabilities.
 
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Originally Posted by barrachuck
Wow, I only ask about the better tuner for the money (Money is a factor) - and I was really entertained

So, this is what I am getting about the PV - FP3- Fuel Moto:
Power Vision is $434 and the FP3 is $300 on Amazon. Both do the same thing, but the PV comes with an LCD screen. (I have a smart phone, so why would I pay the extra for VP?) Fuel Moto is cheaper $199 pre loaded maps and only 3 options of maps savable.

What does the PV do the FP3 does not do? other than have the LCD screen? The only changes I will be making on performance is pipes and airfilter - and may buy the air filter and tuner together
All three will cover those basic mods well. The FP3 has more adjustability and auto tuning than the FM, but with your mods, either would be fine. I like having the smart phone connect feature on the FP3. The PV would be great if you were going to really go heavy into the motor for mods. Hotter cams, bigger throttle body, port and bore jobs...etc...many don't. Whole other subject. The PV and FP3 both have auto tune features to create custom maps based on your particular build and additionally If you are a pro/experianced tuner and know what you are doing the PV has a few more tools to access. If you are a regular rider FP3 covers most needs for the $.

FM and Vance&hines have maps that cover most part combos available, or they will help you with a configuration that works if you don't find a match. AC and pipes are not rocket science and most do a similar job with variances in sound, style, and finish quality. Otherwise it's all about fuel/air mixture and moving it through quickly.
 
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Originally Posted by barrachuck
Wow, I only ask about the better tuner for the money (Money is a factor) - and I was really entertained

So, this is what I am getting about the PV - FP3- Fuel Moto:
Power Vision is $434 and the FP3 is $300 on Amazon. Both do the same thing, but the PV comes with an LCD screen. (I have a smart phone, so why would I pay the extra for VP?) Fuel Moto is cheaper $199 pre loaded maps and only 3 options of maps savable.

What does the PV do the FP3 does not do? other than have the LCD screen? The only changes I will be making on performance is pipes and airfilter - and may buy the air filter and tuner together.




How did it go?
Only 3 maps "STORED'' in the unit. Fuel Moto will send you as many maps as you request, plus you can alter your own with their software, or get maps from other Sportster riders.

Micro EFI Tuner
Fuel Moto USA is pleased to introduce the Fuel Moto Micro Tuner by Dynojet. This easy to install Power Commander V based controller features easy to use software and uses Dynojet PC-V maps. The Fuel Moto Micro Tuner features a powerful range of fuel adjustments, it allows for individual cylinder tuning including the decel area of the tune, a useful accellerator pump feature, and it will store three maps which can be be switched right on the Micro Tuner unit. There are also three broad range adjustment for making in field adjustments if desired. There are hundreds of maps available covering most popular applications. Fuel Moto will also pre-program your Micro Tuner based on the modifications you have made to your bike so it is ready to install when you receive it. There is also a wealth of support available from both Fuel Moto and Dynojet Research.
 

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