Much needed advice on bars
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Much needed advice on bars
Hoping to get some advice from thse in the know. My son just bought his first Harley, a 2008 1200c. He pretty much broke the bank to get it and knowing how bad the desire tomake some mods can be,I want to help him out a bit with his first.
He lives out of state so we talk and search web sites. Hekeeps coming back to the same bars...Z-bars. I'd liketo toorder andship em to him as a surprisebut want to make sure he'll have everything he needsforputting them on. The ones he mentioned measure at 1/4" inch diameter, width approx. 30" inches ,knurled center-to-center 3.5" inches, center width approx. 14.5" inches, rise 4" inches.
So here's where I need help.
1. Will he have to change cables? If so to what size on which?( not intersted in braided ss right now)
2. Will he need different risersOR is there a riser better suited to the style of the bars?
3. Will he have to do anything different to mount his stock instrument gauge?
Thanks all !
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He lives out of state so we talk and search web sites. Hekeeps coming back to the same bars...Z-bars. I'd liketo toorder andship em to him as a surprisebut want to make sure he'll have everything he needsforputting them on. The ones he mentioned measure at 1/4" inch diameter, width approx. 30" inches ,knurled center-to-center 3.5" inches, center width approx. 14.5" inches, rise 4" inches.
So here's where I need help.
1. Will he have to change cables? If so to what size on which?( not intersted in braided ss right now)
2. Will he need different risersOR is there a riser better suited to the style of the bars?
3. Will he have to do anything different to mount his stock instrument gauge?
Thanks all !
Chrome
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From: Fugitive from justice
RE: Much needed advice on bars
I got them from these guys for 105 shipped
http://www.steelthundercc.com/handlebars.html
But they lied......the bars are not dimpled for stock wiring (like described) and they are almost impossible to internally wire due to their Z's and ruff internal welds.....And if you do internally wire them, you must extend the wire harnesses for both sides....A feat that might be beyond his developing capabilities.
So what I ended up doing was carefully grinding slots in the undersides at each control clamp to allow the wires to escape uncrushed........if you saw it you would understand.....
plus, the actual bar end is too short for the assembled left side grip and controls....you end up with a left grip that has no internal support the last 1.5".....but that too is easily fixed.
Dad, this is one mod that you really need to be present for.......kids tend to get in a hurry and take short cuts....and these particular bars need a couple well placed and executed mods to make them work safely and reliably......once installed propperly he will be the envy of all, so if possible find a way to either assist him yourself or arrange a guy local to him to do it.
http://www.steelthundercc.com/handlebars.html
But they lied......the bars are not dimpled for stock wiring (like described) and they are almost impossible to internally wire due to their Z's and ruff internal welds.....And if you do internally wire them, you must extend the wire harnesses for both sides....A feat that might be beyond his developing capabilities.
So what I ended up doing was carefully grinding slots in the undersides at each control clamp to allow the wires to escape uncrushed........if you saw it you would understand.....
plus, the actual bar end is too short for the assembled left side grip and controls....you end up with a left grip that has no internal support the last 1.5".....but that too is easily fixed.
Dad, this is one mod that you really need to be present for.......kids tend to get in a hurry and take short cuts....and these particular bars need a couple well placed and executed mods to make them work safely and reliably......once installed propperly he will be the envy of all, so if possible find a way to either assist him yourself or arrange a guy local to him to do it.
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RE: Much needed advice on bars
ORIGINAL: YodaddyKeith
I got them from these guys for 105 shipped
http://www.steelthundercc.com/handlebars.html
But they lied......the bars are not dimpled for stock wiring (like described) and they are almost impossible to internally wire due to their Z's and ruff internal welds.....And if you do internally wire them, you must extend the wire harnesses for both sides....A feat that might be beyond his developing capabilities.
So what I ended up doing was carefully grinding slots in the undersides at each control clamp to allow the wires to escape uncrushed........if you saw it you would understand.....
plus, the actual bar end is too short for the assembled left side grip and controls....you end up with a left grip that has no internal support the last 1.5".....but that too is easily fixed.
Dad, this is one mod that you really need to be present for.......kids tend to get in a hurry and take short cuts....and these particular bars need a couple well placed and executed mods to make them work safely and reliably......once installed propperly he will be the envy of all, so if possible find a way to either assist him yourself or arrange a guy local to him to do it.
I got them from these guys for 105 shipped
http://www.steelthundercc.com/handlebars.html
But they lied......the bars are not dimpled for stock wiring (like described) and they are almost impossible to internally wire due to their Z's and ruff internal welds.....And if you do internally wire them, you must extend the wire harnesses for both sides....A feat that might be beyond his developing capabilities.
So what I ended up doing was carefully grinding slots in the undersides at each control clamp to allow the wires to escape uncrushed........if you saw it you would understand.....
plus, the actual bar end is too short for the assembled left side grip and controls....you end up with a left grip that has no internal support the last 1.5".....but that too is easily fixed.
Dad, this is one mod that you really need to be present for.......kids tend to get in a hurry and take short cuts....and these particular bars need a couple well placed and executed mods to make them work safely and reliably......once installed propperly he will be the envy of all, so if possible find a way to either assist him yourself or arrange a guy local to him to do it.
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From: Fugitive from justice
RE: Much needed advice on bars
your boy is in touch with popular tastes........once installed he will love not only the compliments, but also the new seating position and added width.....
These bars are going to raise his hands and lean him forward......with the forward controls already on the custom he will be in perfect position and it will effect his judgement to the point he will drive much more agressively and take more risks......I know this from my own instant reaction, and I assure you those bars turnedthis already suicidal old fart into a suicidal old fart on Viagra..........I LOVE those bars but I also know their danger.
Congrats for support your kid.......I tried to give my son my sporty last night and he refused because "bikes are dangerous".
These bars are going to raise his hands and lean him forward......with the forward controls already on the custom he will be in perfect position and it will effect his judgement to the point he will drive much more agressively and take more risks......I know this from my own instant reaction, and I assure you those bars turnedthis already suicidal old fart into a suicidal old fart on Viagra..........I LOVE those bars but I also know their danger.
Congrats for support your kid.......I tried to give my son my sporty last night and he refused because "bikes are dangerous".
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RE: Much needed advice on bars
ORIGINAL: YodaddyKeith
your boy is in touch with popular tastes........once installed he will love not only the compliments, but also the new seating position and added width.....
These bars are going to raise his hands and lean him forward......with the forward controls already on the custom he will be in perfect position and it will effect his judgement to the point he will drive much more agressively and take more risks......I know this from my own instant reaction, and I assure you those bars turnedthis already suicidal old fart into a suicidal old fart on Viagra..........I LOVE those bars but I also know their danger.
Congrats for support your kid.......I tried to give my son my sporty last night and he refused because "bikes are dangerous".
your boy is in touch with popular tastes........once installed he will love not only the compliments, but also the new seating position and added width.....
These bars are going to raise his hands and lean him forward......with the forward controls already on the custom he will be in perfect position and it will effect his judgement to the point he will drive much more agressively and take more risks......I know this from my own instant reaction, and I assure you those bars turnedthis already suicidal old fart into a suicidal old fart on Viagra..........I LOVE those bars but I also know their danger.
Congrats for support your kid.......I tried to give my son my sporty last night and he refused because "bikes are dangerous".
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From: Fugitive from justice
RE: Much needed advice on bars
My kid's a cop and flies airplanes......but he is skeered of scooters......
He finally explained the reason last night.....he related how onHS grad trip he rented a moped and got rear ended in florida and culprit then fled the scene and how ever since then was scared of scooters and those driving cagers near him..........
I understood, but I'm thinking that was over 10 years ago, ya know?
Maybe someday he will ride with me
He finally explained the reason last night.....he related how onHS grad trip he rented a moped and got rear ended in florida and culprit then fled the scene and how ever since then was scared of scooters and those driving cagers near him..........
I understood, but I'm thinking that was over 10 years ago, ya know?
Maybe someday he will ride with me
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RE: Much needed advice on bars
You sure he's just not waiting for you to get those new wheels on
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RE: Much needed advice on bars
ORIGINAL: YodaddyKeith
My kid's a cop and flies airplanes......but he is skeered of scooters......
He finally explained the reason last night.....he related how onHS grad trip he rented a moped and got rear ended in florida and culprit then fled the scene and how ever since then was scared of scooters and those driving cagers near him..........
I understood, but I'm thinking that was over 10 years ago, ya know?
Maybe someday he will ride with me
My kid's a cop and flies airplanes......but he is skeered of scooters......
He finally explained the reason last night.....he related how onHS grad trip he rented a moped and got rear ended in florida and culprit then fled the scene and how ever since then was scared of scooters and those driving cagers near him..........
I understood, but I'm thinking that was over 10 years ago, ya know?
Maybe someday he will ride with me
RE: Much needed advice on bars
i have pulled wires though Z bars it was a pain but worked with some twine and an air compressor... he can blow the string though then pull it ... or fishing line(what i usually use) sharp bars man they look sick... where does he live? maybe we can help him out... i am always willing to help out a forum member... if he is near chicago, he can bring them to my shop and i will do as described above for him... hell he will prob want to ride with us... if oyu are 49 he is right around our crews age i am sure... just a thought...