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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Hey guys, been a while since i posted anything. Haven't really done anything difficult that I needed help with since I got my bike, but alas, I finally have some extra money while in school.

I ordered up a set of 2000 Hugger handlebars that I was going to swap on. Read that they should fit fine with cable lenght, might need to bend/replace the brake line. But my real question is removing the grips/throttle. I read people suggest to 'jam' the brake level, but I'm a little lost on what exactly they mean. Can anyone give me some more ensight? Doing this without a FSM, but it seems straightforward enough. Any tips or tricks I should know?

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Its on a 07 883 in case it makes a difference. I'll get a picture up one of these days....maybe when my few toys are on.
 

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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Hey Cam,
I think what your talking about is to jam the brake lever prior to removing the Master cylinder assembly for the front brake. All you need to do apply the front brakes by pulling on the lever, lock at the front of the brake lever were it pivots away from the master cylinder. a gap will open between the two, insert a piece of cardbourd folded to 5/32" and let the lever go. What you are doing is letting the the brake stoplight activation switch out and avoiding any damage to the piston or rubber boot for the switch. leave the card board spacer in until you have everything all reinstalled and back together.
If you have never taken the throttle apart before, be carefull when you remove the cables from the throttle grip control (under the right side grip) watch that you don't lose either of the two brass ferrule's which hold you cables in place in the throttle grip control.
Good luck, hope you enjoy the new bars.

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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Ahh, much better! Thanks for the help!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ares
Hey guys, been a while since i posted anything. Haven't really done anything difficult that I needed help with since I got my bike, but alas, I finally have some extra money while in school.

I ordered up a set of 2000 Hugger handlebars that I was going to swap on. Read that they should fit fine with cable lenght, might need to bend/replace the brake line. But my real question is removing the grips/throttle. I read people suggest to 'jam' the brake level, but I'm a little lost on what exactly they mean. Can anyone give me some more ensight? Doing this without a FSM, but it seems straightforward enough. Any tips or tricks I should know?

Thanks guys.

Its on a 07 883 in case it makes a difference. I'll get a picture up one of these days....maybe when my few toys are on.
Next time you have extra money, spend it on a service manual. Toys are nice but having a reference handy is nicer still I won't work on anything without one and I have been a shadetree for 50 years
 
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Next time you have extra money, spend it on a service manual. Toys are nice but having a reference handy is nicer still I won't work on anything without one and I have been a shadetree for 50 years
Yea i know. I keep meaning to get around to that...but then I keep thinking 'well, its still under warrantee, so why do i need it.' Then it always seems 2 days later I really wish I had bought the fsm instead. They do work wonders.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Piglet1999
Hey Cam,
I think what your talking about is to jam the brake lever prior to removing the Master cylinder assembly for the front brake. All you need to do apply the front brakes by pulling on the lever, lock at the front of the brake lever were it pivots away from the master cylinder. a gap will open between the two, insert a piece of cardbourd folded to 5/32" and let the lever go. What you are doing is letting the the brake stoplight activation switch out and avoiding any damage to the piston or rubber boot for the switch. leave the card board spacer in until you have everything all reinstalled and back together.
If you have never taken the throttle apart before, be carefull when you remove the cables from the throttle grip control (under the right side grip) watch that you don't lose either of the two brass ferrule's which hold you cables in place in the throttle grip control.
Good luck, hope you enjoy the new bars.

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I just put a set of Wide Glide bars on the wife's 07 1200L. I didn't do the brake lever lock described above and I guess I got lucky as I see no problems so far there. However, I did have to replace the brake line with a Russell braided line. Now the front brake lever travels all the way back to the grip. The brakes work and are not spongy like they would be with air in the line but I don't think they apply enough force to lock the front tire down. I'm wondering if the braided line is balooning enough to cause this. I bled them by pulling vacuum on the caliper and I'm sure there's no air in the line. Anybody got any ideas?

BTW, +1 on not losing the brass ferrules. I spent several minutes looking for one of those after it fell.
 
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Originally Posted by hamnhog
I just put a set of Wide Glide bars on the wife's 07 1200L. I didn't do the brake lever lock described above and I guess I got lucky as I see no problems so far there. However, I did have to replace the brake line with a Russell braided line. Now the front brake lever travels all the way back to the grip. The brakes work and are not spongy like they would be with air in the line but I don't think they apply enough force to lock the front tire down. I'm wondering if the braided line is balooning enough to cause this. I bled them by pulling vacuum on the caliper and I'm sure there's no air in the line. Anybody got any ideas?

BTW, +1 on not losing the brass ferrules. I spent several minutes looking for one of those after it fell.
Hmmm, lengthening the line shouldn't cause any pressure changes. I wouldn't think the line would balloon either, even standard rubber lines are rated to extremely high psi. With how short the lines are I don't see that being an issue...

unfortunitly the only thing I could think of would be to bleed them agian. Might be an air bubble caught somewhere in the system

My handlebars seem like they are taking years to get here. I ended up ordering up some new grips too so I can just slice my old ones off.
 
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Hmmm, lengthening the line shouldn't cause any pressure changes. I wouldn't think the line would balloon either, even standard rubber lines are rated to extremely high psi. With how short the lines are I don't see that being an issue...

unfortunitly the only thing I could think of would be to bleed them agian. Might be an air bubble caught somewhere in the system

My handlebars seem like they are taking years to get here. I ended up ordering up some new grips too so I can just slice my old ones off.
Check the Sticky at the top of the Brakes tech forum. I read it after I posted in your thread. I'll be trying that tonight to see if that will help. I replaced the stock brake line with one that is braided full length. Because of the small size of the piston in the master cylinder, the new line would not have to expand much under pressure to cause a significant loss of controll pressure. I sure hope that isn't the problem. Good luck with your project.
 

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those switches are super esay to break off...have replaced several over the years...good piece of advice by putting something btween the lever
 
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I just switched out my stock Nightster bars for a set of drags i painted black. I didn't unhook anything, I just took off each end swapped the bars and tightened them back up. The brake line had to turned a little but I never unhooked any of the cables at all.
 
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