Stage what???
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Stage what???
this may be a stupid question but, I'm going to ask it anyway... What are the diffrent stages for a pre EFI sporty? I see refrences to stage I, II, and so on.
Do the diffrent parts or number of S/E parts go to the "stage" it is or what? Is there a link or post that explains it?
Thanks,
Jason
Do the diffrent parts or number of S/E parts go to the "stage" it is or what? Is there a link or post that explains it?
Thanks,
Jason
Stage 0: Stock
HP=40 for 883, 50 for 1200 (average)
Stage .5 (also known as "The Harley Tax"): Stock plus:
SE Air Cleaner(1)
SE Slip-On Mufflers or equivalent(2)
Rejetting (DynoJet, Yost or just jets)(3)
HP=50 for 883, 60 for factory 1200(4)
Stage 1: Stage.5 plus
883/1200 Conversion for 883s(5,6,7,8)
SE Ignition Module or adjustable one(9)
HP=60 for 883/1200, 65 for factory 1200
Stage 1.5: Stage 1 plus
Andrews N2 cams (mild)(10)
HP=65 for 883/1200, 70 for factory 1200
Stage 2: Stage 1.5 plus
Andrews N4, N8, or SE bolt-in cams instead of N2(11)
SE S1 Lightning or other bolt-on +/- 10:1 heads(12)
HP=75
Options: 2 into 1 header system, add +/- 7 hp(13)
SE carb (or equivalent), add +/- 3 hp(14)
XR750 (or other) valve springs, no gain(15)
Stage 2.5: Stage 2 plus
Professionally ported 10:1 or higher heads
Matching (to head) domed pistons(16)
XR750 valve springs or SE cam kit(15,17)
2 into 1 header system(13)
SE,S&S Super E, or Mikuni HSR42 carb(14)
HP=90+
Options: big valves (big twin size), add +/- 5 hp(18)
Stage 3: Stage 2.5 plus: (or
Big-bore cylinders and pistons and/or
Stroker kit and/or
Nitrous injection and/or
Supercharging
HP=?
Options: many
http://www.sportster.org/tech/basic-...age-list.shtml
HP=40 for 883, 50 for 1200 (average)
Stage .5 (also known as "The Harley Tax"): Stock plus:
SE Air Cleaner(1)
SE Slip-On Mufflers or equivalent(2)
Rejetting (DynoJet, Yost or just jets)(3)
HP=50 for 883, 60 for factory 1200(4)
Stage 1: Stage.5 plus
883/1200 Conversion for 883s(5,6,7,8)
SE Ignition Module or adjustable one(9)
HP=60 for 883/1200, 65 for factory 1200
Stage 1.5: Stage 1 plus
Andrews N2 cams (mild)(10)
HP=65 for 883/1200, 70 for factory 1200
Stage 2: Stage 1.5 plus
Andrews N4, N8, or SE bolt-in cams instead of N2(11)
SE S1 Lightning or other bolt-on +/- 10:1 heads(12)
HP=75
Options: 2 into 1 header system, add +/- 7 hp(13)
SE carb (or equivalent), add +/- 3 hp(14)
XR750 (or other) valve springs, no gain(15)
Stage 2.5: Stage 2 plus
Professionally ported 10:1 or higher heads
Matching (to head) domed pistons(16)
XR750 valve springs or SE cam kit(15,17)
2 into 1 header system(13)
SE,S&S Super E, or Mikuni HSR42 carb(14)
HP=90+
Options: big valves (big twin size), add +/- 5 hp(18)
Stage 3: Stage 2.5 plus: (or
Big-bore cylinders and pistons and/or
Stroker kit and/or
Nitrous injection and/or
Supercharging
HP=?
Options: many
http://www.sportster.org/tech/basic-...age-list.shtml
Tourer
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 317
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From: Columbus, Ohio
I always thought that a stage I was new exhaust, a high-flow air cleaner setup, and either the rejet(carb) or the addition of a power commander (EFI). The concept of a "Stage .5" is new to me (I realize you did not come up with these, just pointing out). Personally I don't see why an 883 needs a 1200 conversion to be a stage I. And is an ignition module really going to do anything for a motor that is full of stock guts??
Everyone seems to have a slightly different view on what constitutes a Stage. For example, the following website is classifying this as a Stage 2 even without cams or an upgraded ignition module...but it does give me ideas ;-)
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/e...0840_dreed.htm
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/e...0840_dreed.htm
Tourer
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Posts: 396
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From: DFW, TX
I always thought that a stage I was new exhaust, a high-flow air cleaner setup, and either the rejet(carb) or the addition of a power commander (EFI). The concept of a "Stage .5" is new to me (I realize you did not come up with these, just pointing out). Personally I don't see why an 883 needs a 1200 conversion to be a stage I. And is an ignition module really going to do anything for a motor that is full of stock guts??
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Stage 0: Stock
HP=40 for 883, 50 for 1200 (average)
Stage .5 (also known as "The Harley Tax"): Stock plus:
SE Air Cleaner(1)
SE Slip-On Mufflers or equivalent(2)
Rejetting (DynoJet, Yost or just jets)(3)
HP=50 for 883, 60 for factory 1200(4)
Stage 1: Stage.5 plus
883/1200 Conversion for 883s(5,6,7,8)
SE Ignition Module or adjustable one(9)
HP=60 for 883/1200, 65 for factory 1200
Stage 1.5: Stage 1 plus
Andrews N2 cams (mild)(10)
HP=65 for 883/1200, 70 for factory 1200
Stage 2: Stage 1.5 plus
Andrews N4, N8, or SE bolt-in cams instead of N2(11)
SE S1 Lightning or other bolt-on +/- 10:1 heads(12)
HP=75
Options: 2 into 1 header system, add +/- 7 hp(13)
SE carb (or equivalent), add +/- 3 hp(14)
XR750 (or other) valve springs, no gain(15)
Stage 2.5: Stage 2 plus
Professionally ported 10:1 or higher heads
Matching (to head) domed pistons(16)
XR750 valve springs or SE cam kit(15,17)
2 into 1 header system(13)
SE,S&S Super E, or Mikuni HSR42 carb(14)
HP=90+
Options: big valves (big twin size), add +/- 5 hp(18)
Stage 3: Stage 2.5 plus: (or
Big-bore cylinders and pistons and/or
Stroker kit and/or
Nitrous injection and/or
Supercharging
HP=?
Options: many
http://www.sportster.org/tech/basic-...age-list.shtml
HP=40 for 883, 50 for 1200 (average)
Stage .5 (also known as "The Harley Tax"): Stock plus:
SE Air Cleaner(1)
SE Slip-On Mufflers or equivalent(2)
Rejetting (DynoJet, Yost or just jets)(3)
HP=50 for 883, 60 for factory 1200(4)
Stage 1: Stage.5 plus
883/1200 Conversion for 883s(5,6,7,8)
SE Ignition Module or adjustable one(9)
HP=60 for 883/1200, 65 for factory 1200
Stage 1.5: Stage 1 plus
Andrews N2 cams (mild)(10)
HP=65 for 883/1200, 70 for factory 1200
Stage 2: Stage 1.5 plus
Andrews N4, N8, or SE bolt-in cams instead of N2(11)
SE S1 Lightning or other bolt-on +/- 10:1 heads(12)
HP=75
Options: 2 into 1 header system, add +/- 7 hp(13)
SE carb (or equivalent), add +/- 3 hp(14)
XR750 (or other) valve springs, no gain(15)
Stage 2.5: Stage 2 plus
Professionally ported 10:1 or higher heads
Matching (to head) domed pistons(16)
XR750 valve springs or SE cam kit(15,17)
2 into 1 header system(13)
SE,S&S Super E, or Mikuni HSR42 carb(14)
HP=90+
Options: big valves (big twin size), add +/- 5 hp(18)
Stage 3: Stage 2.5 plus: (or
Big-bore cylinders and pistons and/or
Stroker kit and/or
Nitrous injection and/or
Supercharging
HP=?
Options: many
http://www.sportster.org/tech/basic-...age-list.shtml
Thanks for the low down iceman... I guess i coulda just googled it
I guess I'm at about a stage .25!
lol got pipes and air cleaner, maybe once I jet the carb I can be like a .5! Thanks again for the info.
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Edit: I have never ridden a 1200 though, so IDK... Can't immagine it would be that different.
