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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Cool Light Racing,,,

We all do it to some degree,,If ya say ya don't
Yer a Liar or a chicken ****. We may not get crazy
but we all like to walk away from other bikes with
these Sportsters.

Here we go,,,,,,,,,,
Now I'm shure ya all know a Honda Shadow don't stand a chance
against a stock 883 doin a little light to light showin off.
But today I saw an 883 get spanked by a shadow all because
the Shadow rider knew His power band and how to shift fast
and the 883 rider didn't.
Long story short:

They paired up at the front at the light, each had a lane all
to himself. The customary head nod was givin an all was cool,
I was behind the shadow.
Now ya'all know there ain't no way there ain't gonna be a race,
It was writing on the wall. I thought to myself, "This shadow
Is gonna get His *** handed to him"

Well,,here we go,,GREEN LIGHT.

The 883 let the clutch out a bit to slow,
The Shadow rolled out hard,,for a 750 mind you.
Both bikes took off an I was watchin the throttle hands.
The 883 shifted outta first and was wound out when he did it.
Took his brain a sec to realize acceleration had ended,,,rookie,,lol
That was His first Mistake.

His hand was swingin that throttle lock to lock.
The shadow riders hand seem to barely move cause he was smooth,
then came the shift to 3rd and the shadow was FIVE bike lengths ahead,,FIVE.
They both had some pretty good speed up and It was time to back off,,they did.

Ok the reason the 883 lost,,he went straight for the rev limiter and
with all that hand twistin he waisted time with such a long roll back to off.
and His clutching and shift lever movement was jerky and out of time.
He had not taken the time to learn where the Torque was and where It ain't.
He expected power right off Idle and expected It way up above say 5,300 rpms,
Up to the rev limiter.
That may work On a Hot rodded Sportster but not a stocker.

The trottle up In 2nd and 3rd was embarrassing.
The Bike even wiggled when he grabbed the clutch and yanked His foot up,,sad It was.
The Shadow never flinched and the riders head never turned.
Twice the 883 rider looked at the shadow,,,dangerous man Dangerous.

Listen up New guys,,these things are NOT 12,000 plus RPM crotch rockets,,
When the day comes an you get a chance to "Play" I hope you took the
time to Learn that power band.

Harleys/Sportsters get up an go fast with Torque NOT Horse power.
You gotta stay In the sweet spot and that means shifting before the rev limiter.
You gotta learn by the feel,,the *** pressin back In the seat,,
When that press starts to relax you need another gear.
And don't even try and light race a guy If you can't shift FAST and SMOOTH,,
Now go do some practicing before ya get yer *** handed to ya.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Same rider on both bikes I'd put my money on the Honda. Just sayin..........
 

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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So my brother in law has a Shadow 750 and is constantly tring to get me to race him on my 09 XL1200C. My **** doesn't heal very fast and I've controlled my urge to race because I don't know if I even have a chance.
I think we are probably riders of equal riding skills so how do you think it would shake out?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by yet_erp
So my brother in law has a Shadow 750 and is constantly tring to get me to race him on my 09 XL1200C. My **** doesn't heal very fast and I've controlled my urge to race because I don't know if I even have a chance.
I think we are probably riders of equal riding skills so how do you think it would shake out?
Your 1200 would dust him.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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thats vtec for you
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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Number one problem with people racing is they usually don't know when to shift, be it bike, car, or lawnmower, if you don't understand that "flooring it" is more harm than good, you're going to lose the race.

I've dusted cars I had no business racing when I had my MINI because they thought the pedal should be on the floor the whole time.

(Please note, for all intensive purposes, "racing" refers to driving at speeds at or below the posted speed limit. )
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by yet_erp
So my brother in law has a Shadow 750 and is constantly tring to get me to race him on my 09 XL1200C. My **** doesn't heal very fast and I've controlled my urge to race because I don't know if I even have a chance.
I think we are probably riders of equal riding skills so how do you think it would shake out?

A stock 883 would whup a Shadow 750 with a driver that knows His stuff.
Torque wins on cruiser V-Twins

Your 1200 would beat yer brothers 750 even If you shifted at 4,000 rpm
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike07FLHTC
Same rider on both bikes I'd put my money on the Honda. Just sayin..........
These are suppose to be rear wheel figures,,,

Honda 750 Shadow:
Tq 47 @3,000 rpm
Hp 44 @5,500 rpm

883
Tq 48 @4,100 rpm
Hp 53 @6,000 rpm

I'd say using Torque to win the 883 would have the advantage
due to a bit wider flater TQ curve.

The Honda had a real narrow hill top.

Prolly comes down to who's willing to beat the bike the hardest
or who can speed shift the fastest.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Osco
These are suppose to be rear wheel figures,,,

Honda 750 Shadow:
Tq 47 @3,000 rpm
Hp 44 @5,500 rpm

883
Tq 48 @4,100 rpm
Hp 53 @6,000 rpm

I'd say using Torque to win the 883 would have the advantage
due to a bit wider flater TQ curve.

The Honda had a real narrow hill top.

Prolly comes down to who's willing to beat the bike the hardest
or who can speed shift the fastest.
Well the guy on the Honda would beat his the hardest. Honda's are disposable aren't they?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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My buddy has a 883L with V&H slipons he raced a guy he knows that had a 750 with some pipes and some other stuff and spanked him. I had a 883c and my buddy and I would race and pretty much be side by side. I then purchased my 1200c and we raced and of course no contest. So in the case of 1200 vs honda 750 should be hands down!
 
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