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What are normal/customary charges for dyno time at Harley Dealers and independants. I would like some idea before walking into the dealership. I recently paid $50 for four-runs on my car (club rate). Thanks
The local dealer that did mine gave me a break as I mentioned in the other post, but normally bills out their normal billing deck of 86.oo per hour for dyno runs. Standard shop labour rates are the norm around here when it comes to dyno time/charges. I hear some of the SoCal shops charge about 110.00 per hour for shop time and include runs at the same rate.
A baseline pull should be $45-55, but always ask first because some dealerships have some stupid policies regarding that and it comes out to more. Tuning is usually normal shop rate and can usually take 2-4 hrs depending on the work. If you like to tune yourself it's usually cheaper to tune and then go back for a baseline.
I don't intend to bash anyone but would someone please explain to me why you would want to dyno a bike?? I think of it like putting a wind speed indicator on a sail boat. The wind speed indicator will tell you how fast the wind is going but so what, there's nothing you can do about it!!
You Dyno a bike for the same reason that engine and car builders Dyno their equipment...to find out how much horsepower it produces. Horsepower is in direct relation to performance, speed, and other relational comparitives that the performance minded individual wants to measure. It's especially important when you are spending money on performance parts and you want to dial the bike in while tuning it on the Dyno, so that you tweak the motor for it's maximum efficiency. Without the Dyno, you're blind as to the results, as you won't have indication if the engine work or parts added have be tuned in properly.
i.e. = Horsepower is different from wind power. Not only can you harrness it, but you can also change it....dramatically! Case in Point!
I don't intend to bash anyone but would someone please explain to me why you would want to dyno a bike?? I think of it like putting a wind speed indicator on a sail boat. The wind speed indicator will tell you how fast the wind is going but so what, there's nothing you can do about it!!
In additon to trying to pull out all the hp you can out of your setup there are other advantages. One is that you can get a AFR reading that tells you if the bike is too lean, too rich, or just right. Not only that is tells you exactly where the leaness or richness occurs. So it allows you to fine tune a machine for not only the best performance but reliability.
Furthermore, you can tell a lot from a dyno. If you have a choppy line, then it can indicate a problem in the engine or the chassis. You may be able to see that the components you put in there are clashing instead of working well or that a bearing it about to go out in the drivetrain. You also get some additional side benefits like knowing if your engine is still tight and healthy. Usually once they lay off the throttle the vaccum is so large that if you have leaking valve seals your bike will cough out some smoke.
Our dealer's new dyno is almost ready and I have negotiated to use my bike as the first EFI test-bed for stage 1 using the SERF. Should have the data the first of the year.
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