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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 04:47 PM
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Clearly there are two camps on this topic, as sharply divided as republicans and democrats are in recent years, and I am not looking to start a religious war. (My questions can be answered without your opinion on should or shouldn't).

Is there any statistical data indicating that bikes with a car tire are more likely to me involved in accidents?

Does the data even exist to create such a study, i.e., at a crash scene, is the fact that a bike has a car tire even recorded? (Would LEO even think to notice such a thing?)

A tangential question, if the presence of a rear car tire was identified in the accident report, would the insurance company use that to withhold coverage?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2021 | 09:45 AM
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I can answer part of that for you with facts. Totaled a 2017 RGU with Car tire on rear. LEO was up on bikes noticed it. hard to miss.. Insurance adjuster did not care one bit settle fast and very good numbers. Now I run a Car tire because most of the time it has a big sidecar on it.
Once in awhile I have a reason to remove it. It was off that day. LEO said on report Road conditions. If some ask me did car tire cause it the answer is no. Might I recovered and avoided the crash with a normal tire ? Maybe..
I followed tow truck to dealership and purchased my new one. Installed sidecar on it at 490 miles and it will be getting a car tire next month.



 
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 11:46 PM
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Not sure how you could blame an accident on a CT. Driver response time, road condition, who initiated the incident, etc.
Now, if the CT were down to the cords, you might be able to but that could be done with any tire.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 05:06 AM
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A car tire (most) is not designed to ride on the edges so it doesn't corner the same as a bike tire.
 
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I can’t provide any empirical data to this study, but I do wonder about hardness/softness of the rubber and the impact on braking and cornering.

Here’s my extreme comparison that I cogitate on. My F150 FX4 came with Goodyears that have a 720 tread wear rating that now have 75,000 miles and still have decent tread all around. My neighbor had to change the rear tire on his new Triumph at 6,000 mi. because he was down to fabric, and he is the most conservative motorcycle rider I have ever seen.

I realize treadwear ratings are all over the map on car tires based on softness of the rubber, which I assume also equates to better/worse traction, but it just makes me wonder.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RANGER73
A car tire (most) is not designed to ride on the edges so it doesn't corner the same as a bike tire.
Originally Posted by gonemad
I can’t provide any empirical data to this study, but I do wonder about hardness/softness of the rubber and the impact on braking and cornering.

Here’s my extreme comparison that I cogitate on. My F150 FX4 came with Goodyears that have a 720 tread wear rating that now have 75,000 miles and still have decent tread all around. My neighbor had to change the rear tire on his new Triumph at 6,000 mi. because he was down to fabric, and he is the most conservative motorcycle rider I have ever seen.

I realize treadwear ratings are all over the map on car tires based on softness of the rubber, which I assume also equates to better/worse traction, but it just makes me wonder.
This why everyone who has put a car tire on their bike has died horribly.... Oh wait a minute, I am still alive after about 50,000 miles on the Dark Side so I guess that can't be true.
 
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I have followed a couple of friends on the tail of the dragon on a Goldwing and Bagger with car tires and I could barely keep up with them and the contact patch on tne road was a plenty. If I could’ve fitted one on my 07 flhtc I would’ve.
 
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Originally Posted by RANGER73
A car tire (most) is not designed to ride on the edges so it doesn't corner the same as a bike tire.
and you know this because you conducted a research study? Can you provide your thesis and plan that you used to determine this?
Oh, wait, this was probably imaginated from your TV chair, right?
 
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Originally Posted by EasternSP
and you know this because you conducted a research study? Can you provide your thesis and plan that you used to determine this?
Oh, wait, this was probably imaginated from your TV chair, right?
Prove me wrong or STFU.
I didn't say it wouldn't work, it will but not as well.
I'll repost my comment as your comprehension skills are lacking.
"A car tire (most) is not designed to ride on the edges so it doesn't corner the same as a bike tire."
 

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