DYNOJET: TT AT vs PV Basic AT
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Here is a well tuned Sporty tuned with Autotune Basic and narrow bands and then installed a Dynojet Pro setup to log and see how we did. The bike was running open loop fueling at the time of this low as we had o2 eliminators on the 02 sensor plugs.
http://www.nbs-stl.com/HarleyTuning/...%20Targets.PNG
Andy
http://www.nbs-stl.com/HarleyTuning/...%20Targets.PNG
Andy
If all you did was install o2 eliminators. Why is the richest it is targeting showing 14? Looks like the target was changed as well. This is not an apples to apples comparison and it isn't even what you describe. More carney trick and BS. You can also see the scaling is different.
Is there anybody that gets anything out of these screen shots? Does it help anyone? They don't do anything for me or show me anything as far as data of how the bike runs. Only thing it does show is. Andy is willing to say whatever it takes even if it doesn't line up with his own screen shots.
Edited to add. Why is one zoomed in farther than the other?
Last edited by hrdtail78; Jul 2, 2016 at 03:03 PM.
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Is there anybody that gets anything out of these screen shots? Does it help anyone? They don't do anything for me or show me anything as far as data of how the bike runs. Only thing it does show is. Andy is willing to say whatever it takes even if it doesn't line up with his own screen shots.
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Originally Posted by whittlebeast
Jason, all of those zooms were done to get as close to 400 total sec as possible. Data rates wer different.
It's hand picked, choice data displayed for your agenda. It's just like posting a WOT dyno graph and trying to convince everybody how great it is tuned by showing the easy part.
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Not sure what the point was but both seem to be equally rubbish, both are all over the blooming place and only follow set AFR as a hint of a trend rather than actually following the set target ...but then again you're trying to shove one heck of a lot of info into an awfully small space
Edit ...having worked out what was going on with the throttle in the top example I think they both look rather equal (and dreadful), but the top one was possibly a touch less wobbly on idle, but only by a hair. So much data on the time axis is blurring what is really going on I'm afraid
Edit ...having worked out what was going on with the throttle in the top example I think they both look rather equal (and dreadful), but the top one was possibly a touch less wobbly on idle, but only by a hair. So much data on the time axis is blurring what is really going on I'm afraid
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Not sure what the point was but both seem to be equally rubbish, both are all over the blooming place and only follow set AFR as a hint of a trend rather than actually following the set target ...but then again you're trying to shove one heck of a lot of info into an awfully small space
Edit ...having worked out what was going on with the throttle in the top example I think they both look rather equal (and dreadful), but the top one was possibly a touch less wobbly on idle, but only by a hair. So much data on the time axis is blurring what is really going on I'm afraid
Edit ...having worked out what was going on with the throttle in the top example I think they both look rather equal (and dreadful), but the top one was possibly a touch less wobbly on idle, but only by a hair. So much data on the time axis is blurring what is really going on I'm afraid
Andy
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Fair enough I understand statistics, but showing those two trace sets ...I don't really see any significant difference, if any, was there supposed to be?
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The differences were fairly subtle. That motor was really well tuned when I went to the wideband.
The motor on the top in this shot simply needs tuning. I posted it a few pages back.
http://www.nbs-stl.com/HarleyTuning/...%20Targets.PNG
Andy
The motor on the top in this shot simply needs tuning. I posted it a few pages back.
http://www.nbs-stl.com/HarleyTuning/...%20Targets.PNG
Andy
Last edited by whittlebeast; Jul 2, 2016 at 05:59 PM.
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The differences were fairly subtle. That motor was really well tuned when I went to the wideband.
The motor on the top in this shot simply needs tuning. I posted it a few pages back.
http://www.nbs-stl.com/HarleyTuning/...%20Targets.PNG
Andy
The motor on the top in this shot simply needs tuning. I posted it a few pages back.
http://www.nbs-stl.com/HarleyTuning/...%20Targets.PNG
Andy