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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 06:00 AM
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Steve was the guy that got me thinking about it. I simply did a test.
 
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Originally Posted by bwoltz
What does refill rate mean? Filling the cylinder? Filling the exhaust system? Not sure you you can use the term refill rate on an exhaust system as it is not a pump like cylinder. At you mean exchange or replacement rate? I think that the right term. Old combusted exhaust is replaced/exchanged for new?
Hint: If the exhaust contains the O2 sensor and it has a volume and a refill rate it must also have a exit. Does that chamber volume equal the cylinder volume? Does it exit to a lower pressure? How often does it get refilled?
 
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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I ran this past a thermodynamics PHD friend and he came to the conclusion that without the average temperature, pressure and exact makeup of the "gas" in the exhaust system, it would be a fairly complicated calculation. His thought is it would take a MAF or at least average exhaust velocity to figure it out.

His thought was the exhaust designers may have a decent handle on this stuff. We moved on tho the test I did.

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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by whittlebeast
His thought was the exhaust designers may have a decent handle on this stuff. We moved on tho the test I did.
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Riiight.
Now about that bridge for sale...
 
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by whittlebeast
I ran this past a thermodynamics PHD friend and he came to the conclusion that without the average temperature, pressure and exact makeup of the "gas" in the exhaust system, it would be a fairly complicated calculation. His thought is it would take a MAF or at least average exhaust velocity to figure it out.

His thought was the exhaust designers may have a decent handle on this stuff. We moved on tho the test I did.

Andy
Especially in the Harley world exhaust mfgs must follow form with function to their exhaust system designs.

Unlike racecars, Harley motorcycles don't have the room or desire to put function before form.
It's all about minimizing the ill effects of the forced design perimeters of exhaust designs.

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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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I simply enjoy teaching people how to tune and how to spot the patterns when things go bad.
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Before you go trying to teach people, you need at least to learn how to do it correctly yourself. Your here on a HD forum, not anywhere else, so drop all the car stuff and your wrong theories, then learn the HD problems and how to correctly fix those. Once you have learned how to do that then you can pass the knowledge along. All your doing now is hurting people and making yourself look pretty bad IMHO.
 
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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Oleboy have you been able hook up the Autotune Pro kit and do any testing?
 
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Oleboy have you been able hook up the Autotune Pro kit and do any testing?
Not yet. I've been jammed up a bit lately. Once I do, I will pass the data logs and MAPs to Harley Tuner to post up.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
Hint: If the exhaust contains the O2 sensor and it has a volume and a refill rate it must also have a exit. Does that chamber volume equal the cylinder volume? Does it exit to a lower pressure? How often does it get refilled?
Assuming the compression ratio is greater than 2 to 1, I would assume the combustion chamber is smaller.. Not sure where you are going with this. Or are you calling the exhaust system the "chamber"? Higher pressure always flows to lower pressure until the pressure is equalized and any energy in the flow has died out..

Are you asking how often the exhaust pipe volume is exchanged?
 
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