Other Devices: Question for FP3 owners
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I ran the auto tune. Gas mileage seems about the same. 200 to 210 a tank and takes 5 gallons to fill it. Sometimes a bit more. Sometimes less depends on how I rode. But it certainly did not kill my mileage.
It did make my bike run 100% better.
It did make my bike run 100% better.
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From what I understand, popping, or decel pop is a condition produced by too lean a fuel ratio. Richening it wil reduce it partially or all. But efficiency will frop some while power will increase
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That's a new one ...where do you get that from ??
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The on and off a few times I presume you are referring to basically running a number of autotune sessions (same strategy as with any flash tuner)
The FP3 allows you to "Apply" what you have learnt so far, reset all of the hits screen (because you are now using that data) but keep going with another autotune session (if you want to do that).
The "Finish" option applies the learnt values and exits autotune mode.
Of course, you can stop and start your bike anytime you like and the FP3 will just continue whatever it was doing when you switched it off when you start the bike again.
What DOCGSS said
The FP3 allows you to "Apply" what you have learnt so far, reset all of the hits screen (because you are now using that data) but keep going with another autotune session (if you want to do that).
The "Finish" option applies the learnt values and exits autotune mode.
Of course, you can stop and start your bike anytime you like and the FP3 will just continue whatever it was doing when you switched it off when you start the bike again.
What DOCGSS said
Last edited by Gordon61; Jul 25, 2016 at 05:38 AM.
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Yea, no worries we knew, it was just for the OP's benefit, sounded like he was new to flash tuners.
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When using any flash tuner, the key cycles are part of the ECM adaptive strategy learning process. When reprograming the ECM does still have to "learn" And part of that process is done through key off/key on cycles For example " I have done my flash and the bike ran terrible for awhile." Or "run a few tank fills and then apply" This is a basic description. I also suggest, that when you turn the ignition switch to the on position, wait 3-5 seconds before cranking engine over. This will assist in the "learning" process.
Last edited by checkers; Jul 25, 2016 at 08:49 PM.
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When using any flash tuner, the key cycles are part of the ECM adaptive strategy learning process. When reprograming the ECM does still have to "learn" And part of that process is done through key off/key on cycles For example " I have done my flash and the bike ran terrible for awhile." Or "run a few tank fills and then apply" This is a basic description. I also suggest, that when you turn the ignition switch to the on position, wait 3-5 seconds before cranking engine over. This will assist in the "learning" process.
Funny but I was looking at the FP3 again and they do go on about running a tank through and do this and run another tank through etc ...I wondered if somehow their tuning was using the adaptive values.
The power vision on the other hand switches adaptive off during the tuning process (or at least I thought it did??). You get your VE's centred properly, then it switch adaptive back on once you are finished.
Which tuners were you thinking about here, just I've never read anything about adaptive and key off sequences ...other than the alarm system and disabling EITMS ??
EDIT: Just checked and PV defo switched Adaptive off while auto tuning VEs ??
Last edited by Gordon61; Jul 26, 2016 at 03:41 AM.
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Was that advice not to ensure that the fuel pressure (a very important variable in the EFI equations) was up to where it should be?? Long time since I've read it but was that not in the owners manual?