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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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I do not know what they are doing, so I'm steering clear for awhile to see where the dust settles. I only know most of the race part numbers in the 2015 and 2016 catalog no longer show up, and when searching by description, many of them show up with a new part number and appear to be the same old part.

So if they are going EPA only parts why go to all the trouble of changing all those part numbers and still call them race parts and putting them back in the 2017 catalog!
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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I'm wondering if the catalogs were printed before the agreement? Try to order a part and see if they'll sell it to you. Or are the parts available in other countries just not in North America?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Got another good day of testing in and fitting the pieces of the puzzle together on the NEW Milwaukee 8 and TTS Mastertune. The graphs will show you where we are at with a Stage II Torque kit install on the 107. As you can see we still have it running to the rich side but now we will start to lean it out and see if the engine likes it or what happens with it.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 09:42 PM
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Not sure I seen it mentioned but what will be important is " Can you restore the ECM back to where the dealer can't tell it's been reflashed?" Will this be an issue?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 09:49 PM
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Not sure I seen it mentioned but what will be important is " Can you restore the ECM back to where the dealer can't tell it's been reflashed?" Will this be an issue?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
Hmmmmmm

Were those dynos with nothing more than the HD stage 2 torque cam and TTS tune? Stock pipes? Sweet work! That's a helluva torque curve breaking 100 ft-lbs at 2500rpms and keeping it above 100 out to 5000rpms with nothing more than a cam and tune!
 

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The Stage II bike does have SE mufflers and drop in air filter with the Stage II kit. Stock head pipe with Cat in place.

Here is the stock bike with the tuning changed to run from the tps vs VE tables and torque tuning off. No attempt was made to improve the tuning just get the same tune from the new method. Dyno shows very little change between the two methods. Now it will be time to see what the engine likes or doesn't like from the tuning side of things. Remember this is the 100% STOCK bike at this time.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
The Stage II bike does have SE mufflers and drop in air filter with the Stage II kit. Stock head pipe with Cat in place.

Here is the stock bike with the tuning changed to run from the tps vs VE tables and torque tuning off. No attempt was made to improve the tuning just get the same tune from the new method. Dyno shows very little change between the two methods. Now it will be time to see what the engine likes or doesn't like from the tuning side of things. Remember this is the 100% STOCK bike at this time.
Thanks Steve.. You are really kicking some butt doing this!

I noticed a couple of the maps came from just south of me. Hope they are having fun with the new motors.. Can't wait to see what you can get out of the 114.

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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
The Stage II bike does have SE mufflers and drop in air filter with the Stage II kit. Stock head pipe with Cat in place.

Here is the stock bike with the tuning changed to run from the tps vs VE tables and torque tuning off. No attempt was made to improve the tuning just get the same tune from the new method. Dyno shows very little change between the two methods. Now it will be time to see what the engine likes or doesn't like from the tuning side of things. Remember this is the 100% STOCK bike at this time.
So no difference with torque tuning turned off. Were you surprised?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Hmmmmmm

Were those dynos with nothing more than the HD stage 2 torque cam and TTS tune? Stock pipes? Sweet work! That's a helluva torque curve breaking 100 ft-lbs at 2500rpms and keeping it above 100 out to 5000rpms with nothing more than a cam and tune!
Why the heck didn't they put that in as stock!!
 
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