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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lonesome wex
First amendment, aint it grand?
Realizing, of course, that I meant Pablo22 has the right and said something crappy.
 
Old Mar 13, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TerryFXST
Realizing, of course, that I meant Pablo22 has the right and said something crappy.
sure he does but that doesn't include personal insults. I'm a big boy and my opinion is my right. Serving in 8th AF, SAC helped form my mindset; too much chicken**** and other tangential nonsense. I did my hitch, wanted to do 20 but they found a medical condition which has come back to bite me on the ***. Rated 30% SC after separation, now at the mercy of the Florida VA system. My service was basically nondescript, spent mostly in underground Comm Centres sending messages...to other bases and B52s and KC 135s in the 99th Bomb Wing

When do we start arguing about religion?
 

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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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Man this sounds like keg night around a campfire. Cool. Now back to the beer...

Yesterday a few of us local VN oldpharts had another short discussion on the topic (mmmmmm... beer). STRONG consensus remains - us VN Vets really need to make sure you younger Vets do know how much your service actually DOES mean to us. Want to get together for a "soda pop"?

Then send me an E-mail if you happen to be coming to central FL for this:
http://www.floridaveteransreunion.com/ Note that it's is now appropriately called the "Vietnam and All Veterans reunion". Besides - it's my birthday that week so I'm definitely going to have a "soda pop" or two.

Event Schedule is here:
http://allveteransreunionfl.net/ Note that the M/C escort kick-starts everything on Sunday 19 APR. The turnout is usually OUTSTANDING and links to pics taken during prior reunions are included on this web page.

 

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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RangeRat
- us VN Vets really need to make sure you younger Vets do know how much your service actually DOES mean to us. Want to get together for a "soda pop"?
I was driving home from Ft. Dix, NJ just after Desert Storm had ended. Of course at that time everyone was feeling their "patriotic oats". I was in uniform in my truck when a vehicle that was passing me slowed down. The driver and passenger gave me a big thumbs up and wave. It made no difference to them that I hadn't been anywhere or done anything they just wanted to show their appreciation. When I got home I told my uncle, a Viet Nam Vet about it, he simply remarked "yeah I remember the same thing happening when I got back too" knowing that it wasn't the case. At first I felt pretty bad but realized that there was no way I could change his homecoming experience and completely thankful that things had changed for the better finally. Like I said before in a previous post, the only person a Vet looks for approval or admiration from is another Vet. They are the only ones who really understand what it's like to be there.

BTW, that is not a slight against non-Vets standing up and being thankful. I appreciate their sentiments as well.
 
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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you think your uncle is a liar?
 
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Certainteed
you think your uncle is a liar?
No not at all and it wasn't meant to be conveyed as if he was being dishonest. What he was being was sarcastic as I know for a fact he was spit on more than once and the only part of the hand raised in his direction was not a thumb but a middle finger.
 
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Lonesome wax sorry dude but im still in the army and a combat vet, as well as my father in law who server 20 plus years in the army as well as my great uncles in vietnam. I have to say out of pride alone for my country and my sacrafices as well as respect for those who sacracifed before me I would never sit during the national anthem. Trust me I fully understand that its your right to do what you want. But its my DUTY as a service member in the armed forces to point out your shortcomings.
 
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lonesome wex
don't for whatever reason. just leave it
I will always feel sad for you. You served your country and you have no idea what it means. It doesn't matter what you did while you were in, what matters is how you respect what you did and the others that have and are doing. You sir have shown no respect to either group, that is why I feel sad for you.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HDMike96
Lonesome wax sorry dude but im still in the army and a combat vet, as well as my father in law who server 20 plus years in the army as well as my great uncles in vietnam. I have to say out of pride alone for my country and my sacrafices as well as respect for those who sacracifed before me I would never sit during the national anthem. Trust me I fully understand that its your right to do what you want. But its my DUTY as a service member in the armed forces to point out your shortcomings.

I'm cool with that. Stay safe...
 
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sonar_chris
I will always feel sad for you. You served your country and you have no idea what it means. It doesn't matter what you did while you were in, what matters is how you respect what you did and the others that have and are doing. You sir have shown no respect to either group, that is why I feel sad for you.
whatever. I'm not making a career out of being a Vet. DId my hitch, got on with my life. I voted for Obama and I own a .38 Special airweight. Sue me...
 



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