Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Question for those smarter than I.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 04:55 PM
  #21  
dirtracin23's Avatar
dirtracin23
Road Warrior
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 4
From: Central IL
Default

Originally Posted by SafetyMan
And FWIW...

I highly recommend a flash tuner (PV) over a piggy back unit all day long.



Hope it's not too late for him to come to his senses.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:27 PM
  #22  
MGS Performance's Avatar
MGS Performance
Former Sponsor
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Lancaster, CA
Default MGS Custom Bikes

Originally Posted by brett2413
2013 Ultra Limited
SE a/f
Rhinehert exhaust (probably spelled wrong) 4" slip-ons
I'm assuming a stage 1 remap (the bike is new to me)

I'm wanting to remove the puddy cat, will the increase in flow and decrease in back pressure mess with the way it runs? or should I get a tuner before I do this to compensate for the difference. Plan on getting a tuner and header pipes, just having to upgrade as funds are available. It runs real good now, well compared to my 20 year old GL1500 Goldwing.

Thanks in advance, and y'all have a ton of tech brain power on this site from what I can tell from reading what y'all post. I plan on learning as much as I can.
At MGS we have a few options you can look at. We have 4" slip ons right now for $249 and a head pipe so when you have more funds available you can step into our system piece by piece. We also have a full true duals system for $700. And lastly we have our stage 1 pkg true duals full system, Power Commander 5 with a preloaded map from our dyno, and an arlen ness big sucker for $1089.

 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 08:08 PM
  #23  
bagman1's Avatar
bagman1
Grand HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,999
Likes: 55
From: Bay Area
Default

Originally Posted by SBates08
The Power Vision does not bypass the O2 sensors. The PV is every bit as good as the TTS. Either of these would be far and above better than any piggyback tuner.

2010 Limited with some stuff!!
Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure on the PV.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2015 | 08:30 PM
  #24  
SBates08's Avatar
SBates08
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 10,637
Likes: 1,246
From: Lake, Ms
Default

Originally Posted by bagman1
Thanks for the info, I wasn't sure on the PV.
Yessir the AutoTune basic comes standard with the PV and has an add on option for the AutoTune Pro. Better tuner than the PCV but that's just my opinion. Nothing wrong with the PCV at all. Lots of folks using it with good results but it's not in the same league as the PV.

2010 Limited with some stuff!!
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2015 | 07:24 AM
  #25  
mrfikser's Avatar
mrfikser
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,488
Likes: 30
From: Maryland near DC
Default

Originally Posted by SBates08
Yessir the AutoTune basic comes standard with the PV and has an add on option for the AutoTune Pro. Better tuner than the PCV but that's just my opinion. Nothing wrong with the PCV at all. Lots of folks using it with good results but it's not in the same league as the PV.

2010 Limited with some stuff!!


I completely agree with your PCV and PV comment....For most people a PCV will do everything needed, for the few people who do radical stuff to their motor a PV is better, but for the general audience that changes intake, exhaust and maybe cams, but doesn't do head work or use supper hot cams the PCV will get them ALMOST a perfect tune with just a fuelmoto map, and by that I mean a map that the owner wont be able to tell that their bike is missing a fraction of a hp at some particular rpm here and there....Also for the guy that said look at the plugs in the first few posts...the plugs on fuel injected bikes wont tell you squat about how the bike is running (unless it is so far off that it is blowing black smoke or stumbling) , in the old carb. days you could use the plugs to get an idea of the condition of the burn but them days are gone..
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2015 | 07:28 AM
  #26  
brett2413's Avatar
brett2413
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Liberty Hill, Texas
Default

Just when you think you've done all your home work. Didn't know there was an auto tune basic in the PV. Guess I have to make a call and see if they will stop shipment. I can always put the WB o2 sensors in at a later date and go auto tune pro if I need.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2015 | 07:53 AM
  #27  
SBates08's Avatar
SBates08
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 10,637
Likes: 1,246
From: Lake, Ms
Default

Originally Posted by brett2413
Just when you think you've done all your home work. Didn't know there was an auto tune basic in the PV. Guess I have to make a call and see if they will stop shipment. I can always put the WB o2 sensors in at a later date and go auto tune pro if I need.
It's aight we all have itchy trigger fingers from time to time LOL.

2010 Limited with some stuff!!
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2015 | 08:28 AM
  #28  
SafetyMan's Avatar
SafetyMan
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,970
Likes: 85
From: San Antone
Default

Originally Posted by brett2413
Just when you think you've done all your home work. Didn't know there was an auto tune basic in the PV. Guess I have to make a call and see if they will stop shipment. I can always put the WB o2 sensors in at a later date and go auto tune pro if I need.
That's why I was tryin' to offer up some local help.

Sometimes it helps to have a conversation....

 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 7, 2015 | 09:05 AM
  #29  
brett2413's Avatar
brett2413
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Liberty Hill, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by SafetyMan
That's why I was tryin' to offer up some local help.

Sometimes it helps to have a conversation....

Ok, now you sound like my wife She says I'd jump out of a plane and then think about packing a chute.
 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2015 | 09:43 AM
  #30  
brett2413's Avatar
brett2413
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Liberty Hill, Texas
Default

I have to say, Top Notch Customer Service at FuelMoto. They are going to do a freight recall on the PCV and ship me the PV. And they seemed happy to do it, even though it will be less money to them.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FrankEV
Softail Models
7
Jan 29, 2018 10:29 AM
cazzanico
2014-2024 Touring Models
37
Apr 23, 2015 04:53 AM
MilesOD
Touring Models
3
Apr 22, 2010 11:49 AM
Grind
Dyna Glide Models
15
Jun 14, 2009 11:21 PM
Bagged Out
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
7
Sep 17, 2008 09:34 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE