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Old Jul 8, 2020 | 09:16 AM
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what mechanical benefit is there to having a hydro clutch?

what mechanical benefit is there to retrofitting one to an older model? (a 2012)

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The only real benefit is that the hydraulic system uses a hose, and the hose can be routed with much tighter turns than a cable (routing it through a fairing).

On a bike without a fairing there is no advantage to a hydraulic clutch system.
 
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and a whole lot of reduced effort to pull AND HOLD it, especially if you have heavy springs in the clutch

Way back when, a German company named Magura made an affordable Hydraulic clutch set up for touring bikes, I have not seen them listed for a couple of years now, but I have on on my 2003 Bagger and people who try it love it. I want to say it was under $400 dollars
 
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Originally Posted by F150HD
what mechanical benefit is there to having a hydro clutch?

what mechanical benefit is there to retrofitting one to an older model? (a 2012)

(yea, OP is gone but others reading this thread it seems too)
There are three main reasons, one easier clutch lever action, two, no need for adjustments and thirdly have you ever been out in the middle of no where and your clutch cable snaps, I have and it is no fun!!!
 
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Originally Posted by GPGXP
There are three main reasons, one easier clutch lever action, two, no need for adjustments and thirdly have you ever been out in the middle of no where and your clutch cable snaps, I have and it is no fun!!!
I replaced the original clutch cable on my `89 Softail when it was about 25 years old (over 130,000 miles). It was still working fine, I just changed it because it was old. OEM Harley cables are very robust.

A hydraulic system can fail too, and probably unlikely, just as a cable is unlikely to fail.

The only difference between the two for effort required is how much leverage each system has, hydraulic is no easier than a well routed cable in good working condition.

You may not have the friction of the cable on a hydraulic system, but you instead have a piston in the master cylinder, and a piston on the actuator cylinder.

There is no magic to hydraulics, you still only get out what you put in.

 

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Originally Posted by GPGXP
There are three main reasons, one easier clutch lever action, two, no need for adjustments and thirdly have you ever been out in the middle of no where and your clutch cable snaps, I have and it is no fun!!!
^^ what Dan89 said. I have been in the middle of nowhere and have not had any cable issues. I do have a new one for my 2012 I plan to swap in at a future maintenance cycle just because the bike will be apart so....despite it being mechanical, they are pretty tried and true.

Hydo clutch.....fluid needs changing similar to a brake system to keep it running smoothly. Most modern clutch cables to my knowledge don't even need lubrication. Considering HDs ABS and Dot4 issues, I am leery about putting even more Dot4 anywhere in my bike. Have also read some guys need to flush the system sooner then later due to assembly lube in the Dot4 from the factory and that the fluid can actually 'boil' if routed next to the exhaust. Having ridden thru CA and NV heat, this isn't something I'd want to worry about unless there was some home-run mechanical advantage to having a hydro clutch- which was my initial question.
 
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