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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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Has anyone had any issues installing the new Baker Comp? The indy (old ex harley techs) that is installing mine pulled apart my 2010 Limited and found I had the old rotor on my bike. No problem, they locate the 30041-08A rotor locally and start to install. They check the chain alignment and it comes out to .080, not good. They called Baker and said it should be bolt on and go which I had read here. Upon further looking at the rotor the indy said that they welded a shim/washer for extra strength on the 30041-08A rotor and that he needs to find a 30041-08 rotor which has no shim/washer. Anyone have any issues like this? My indy is currently calling obsolete parts places he knows looking for one. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 06:53 PM
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Mark from Baker is a regular on this site ... He'll get you straight ( probably in the morning )
 
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 07:37 PM
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I believe the design is spot on and that it will work awesome if they can get it in. Just started loosing faith after Baker initially told me I wouldn't need a rotor, and now this. I'm (pretty) sure they will get it but I hope my install bill isn't skyrocketing...
 
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 07:29 AM
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I don't know who told you would not need a rotor but the 30041-08A rotor should work fine. This is printed in the instructions. Is your clutch stock?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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07-11 will require the 30041-08A Rotor. Instructions also specify chain alignment procedures with following statement "H-DŽ offers a wide range of motor sprocket spacers to accommodate your needs." if outside .030 then you need to play with spacers. I am surprised to read that Baker said "bolt on and go" considering their instructions say different (about alignment).
 
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Weavr99FLHT
07-11 will require the 30041-08A Rotor. Instructions also specify chain alignment procedures with following statement "H-DŽ offers a wide range of motor sprocket spacers to accommodate your needs." if outside .030 then you need to play with spacers. I am surprised to read that Baker said "bolt on and go" considering their instructions say different (about alignment).
I wouldn't put that on Baker at all.

It would be bolt on and go if HD didn't have so many variances on something that needs NO variance at all. I mean why on one bike alignment is fine and another from the same year/model it's not. That's some sloppy crap.

If HD was doing their job, there wouldn't be a need for "spacers" in the first place nor a need for a "Baker Compensator" if you think about it. It wouldn't exist if the HD version wasn't such a failure.

Yeah I'm a little hard on the MOCO today.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 08:39 AM
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I wouldn't put that on Baker at all.

It would be bolt on and go if HD didn't have so many variances on something that needs NO variance at all. I mean why on one bike alignment is fine and another from the same year/model it's not. That's some sloppy crap.

If HD was doing their job, there wouldn't be a need for "spacers" in the first place nor a need for a "Baker Compensator" if you think about it. It wouldn't exist if the HD version wasn't such a failure.

Yeah I'm a little hard on the MOCO today.
I looked in the 2014 touring service manual about a month back and there is not even a chain alignment procedure in the primary section. That tells me they know there is going to be variance and they are not worried about it. I also found out that Harley does NOT offer shims anymore like they use to in the pre-07 5 speed bikes. All Harley motors are going to vary as far as crank position goes that's why they have a spacer between the stator/rotor and the main bearing.
 
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Originally Posted by Mark@ Baker Drivetrain
I don't know who told you would not need a rotor but the 30041-08A rotor should work fine. This is printed in the instructions. Is your clutch stock?
Yes stock clutch, bike is a completely stock 2010 Limited. He put it together and measured alignment and said it was .080 to far out, it needs to go back towards the motor .040. He called someone at Baker and said they never had this issue yet, someone was supposed to get a hold of him this morning. I'm about to give up and put the stock comp back in it and let it eat.
 
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Originally Posted by classicjade01
Yes stock clutch, bike is a completely stock 2010 Limited. He put it together and measured alignment and said it was .080 to far out. He called someone at Baker and said they never had this issue yet, someone was supposed to get a hold of him this morning.
I believe our new sales guy Jeff has been in contact with him. I asked Jeff to have him send a picture of this welded in shim. The center portion of the rotor is welded in but it is not a shim. The rotor itself is stamped metal but the center portion is broached for the crank splines and then welded into the the stamped piece. Then they machine down the welded surface. I'll take a pic and show you.
 
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The one they put on my bike looks like this i believe...
 
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