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Ya, I know it's ultimately my decision :-) but I'm tossed and maybe I'm just being too logical. HD isn't a cheap hobby by any means and that's just something you need to live with to enjoy it. (Which I don't mind) but... I have a '09 Ultra with 47K miles with a FM 107... I truly have had some seriously bad luck with this bike. Right now it's in the shop getting a new inner primary bearing\race along with a SE Comp. I also believe I have a lifter issue. But I have paid for a slew of "issues" over the years that I don't feel are just normal. I took a new '17 Limited for a ride and love the bike, but with my '09 being a new model year and the '17 now also being a new model year... I'm just going. Uggg. Do I risk it? My bike has just about every upgrade you can think of and is long paid off. However; what am I going to have to take it into the shop for next and is it eventually just going to leave me stranded? Shop will only give me 10K trade toward the 17 limited as well. The money to upgrade to me isn't an issue, but the concern with having a lot of issues with a new model year bike is. No right or wrong response, just curious what you would do in this scenario?
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Ya, I know it's ultimately my decision :-) but I'm tossed and maybe I'm just being too logical. HD isn't a cheap hobby by any means and that's just something you need to live with to enjoy it. (Which I don't mind) but... I have a '09 Ultra with 47K miles with a FM 107... I truly have had some seriously bad luck with this bike. Right now it's in the shop getting a new inner primary bearing\race along with a SE Comp. I also believe I have a lifter issue. But I have paid for a slew of "issues" over the years that I don't feel are just normal. I took a new '17 Limited for a ride and love the bike, but with my '09 being a new model year and the '17 now also being a new model year... I'm just going. Uggg. Do I risk it? My bike has just about every upgrade you can think of and is long paid off. However; what am I going to have to take it into the shop for next and is it eventually just going to leave me stranded? Shop will only give me 10K trade toward the 17 limited as well. The money to upgrade to me isn't an issue, but the concern with having a lot of issues with a new model year bike is. No right or wrong response, just curious what you would do in this scenario?
If money isn't an issue, I'd say buy the '17...
Any year, any model, any vehicle type... is a crap shoot to buy new. Any new vehicle can be; perfect.... a few warranty issues.... a lemon... luck of the draw.
There are sure to be a few growing pains with the M8, but the vast majority will be handled under warranty and handled quickly. There are exceptions (compensator fiasco), but for those rare, chronic, engineering issues, waiting a year won't help....
When I bought my 2012 Limited, there was a supplier issue with the voltage regulators. 2 months after my purchase, while driving cross country, the fix came out.... It was handled by a shop along my route with no problems.
When the Rushmores came out, there were a few issues caused more by parts suppliers than engineering. The MoCo took care of those pretty quick... Sucked if you were one of the first cause they weren't sure what was going on, but it was handled... 6-7 months later it was just a bad memory..
Good luck on your decision....
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Sounds like you are fed up with your bike....
If money isn't an issue, I'd say buy the '17...
Any year, any model, any vehicle type... is a crap shoot to buy new. Any new vehicle can be; perfect.... a few warranty issues.... a lemon... luck of the draw.
There are sure to be a few growing pains with the M8, but the vast majority will be handled under warranty and handled quickly. There are exceptions (compensator fiasco), but for those rare, chronic, engineering issues, waiting a year won't help....
When I bought my 2012 Limited, there was a supplier issue with the voltage regulators. 2 months after my purchase, while driving cross country, the fix came out.... It was handled by a shop along my route with no problems.
When the Rushmores came out, there were a few issues caused more by parts suppliers than engineering. The MoCo took care of those pretty quick... Sucked if you were one of the first cause they weren't sure what was going on, but it was handled... 6-7 months later it was just a bad memory..
Good luck on your decision....
If money isn't an issue, I'd say buy the '17...
Any year, any model, any vehicle type... is a crap shoot to buy new. Any new vehicle can be; perfect.... a few warranty issues.... a lemon... luck of the draw.
There are sure to be a few growing pains with the M8, but the vast majority will be handled under warranty and handled quickly. There are exceptions (compensator fiasco), but for those rare, chronic, engineering issues, waiting a year won't help....
When I bought my 2012 Limited, there was a supplier issue with the voltage regulators. 2 months after my purchase, while driving cross country, the fix came out.... It was handled by a shop along my route with no problems.
When the Rushmores came out, there were a few issues caused more by parts suppliers than engineering. The MoCo took care of those pretty quick... Sucked if you were one of the first cause they weren't sure what was going on, but it was handled... 6-7 months later it was just a bad memory..
Good luck on your decision....
Am I fed up with mine? Yes\No... Don't get me wrong, my bike is built to my licking. Just when do you say enough is enough on the repairs? It's a tough call for me for some reason... :-)
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It's certainly the way I am leaning! Probably 80\20 at this point. The thing I like about the '17 when I took it out. The new M8 and tranny are just so smooth. My bike with the 107 build has torq don't get me wrong, but it isn't as smooth... The new bike will have a warranty...! If things do go wrong. Maybe I' m more 90\10 LOL...!
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performance work is a never-ending search for the next weakest link in the chain.
for a happy service life, do a stage 1 and use the rest of your money to buy a ducati- you will come out thousands of dollars ahead.
this is yet another post which I would sum up as " I modded the bike, now it doesn;t work and I want to dump it on the market"
more a cautionary tale for those shopping used.
mike
for a happy service life, do a stage 1 and use the rest of your money to buy a ducati- you will come out thousands of dollars ahead.
this is yet another post which I would sum up as " I modded the bike, now it doesn;t work and I want to dump it on the market"
more a cautionary tale for those shopping used.
mike
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From: Phoenix '53, '88, '09 Big Twins
performance work is a never-ending search for the next weakest link in the chain.
for a happy service life, do a stage 1 and use the rest of your money to buy a ducati- you will come out thousands of dollars ahead.
this is yet another post which I would sum up as " I modded the bike, now it doesn;t work and I want to dump it on the market"
more a cautionary tale for those shopping used.
mike
for a happy service life, do a stage 1 and use the rest of your money to buy a ducati- you will come out thousands of dollars ahead.
this is yet another post which I would sum up as " I modded the bike, now it doesn;t work and I want to dump it on the market"
more a cautionary tale for those shopping used.
mike
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Good luck with your decision....
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performance work is a never-ending search for the next weakest link in the chain.
for a happy service life, do a stage 1 and use the rest of your money to buy a ducati- you will come out thousands of dollars ahead.
this is yet another post which I would sum up as " I modded the bike, now it doesn;t work and I want to dump it on the market"
more a cautionary tale for those shopping used.
mike
for a happy service life, do a stage 1 and use the rest of your money to buy a ducati- you will come out thousands of dollars ahead.
this is yet another post which I would sum up as " I modded the bike, now it doesn;t work and I want to dump it on the market"
more a cautionary tale for those shopping used.
mike
That being said, I agree with you 100% on the stage 1... If\When I upgrade, I will not go past a stage 1... That is why I really like the '17. the 17 stock has the HP\Torq of my '09 built and a stage one will just give me a bit of a bonus and sound...
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If you don't trust your bike anymore then it's a no brainer in my book. You've already said that money isn't an issue.
It's a touring bike. There's nothing worse than going out and wondering if you're going to make it home.
If I was in your shoes I'd buy it and load it with warranty but I'm not you. I have a paid for bike and would be looking at a big payment to get a new one so I just ride on.
Good luck with your decision.
It's a touring bike. There's nothing worse than going out and wondering if you're going to make it home.
If I was in your shoes I'd buy it and load it with warranty but I'm not you. I have a paid for bike and would be looking at a big payment to get a new one so I just ride on.
Good luck with your decision.