Engine Build?Crate ?????
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Road Master
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From: Tomball, Tx.
Would be an option but that kit to my knowledge is only for the CVO 110's.
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Road Master
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From what I read on the forum, you can't go wrong with Fuel Moto.
If your bike is still stock, you might find that you'd be pleasantly surprised with cam's, gut the cat out of the pipe and a good tune. That will really wake it up. As mkguitar said, the wet heads have higher compression and allow for a more aggressive cam. Even without headwork.
If you talk to Danny, I'd love to know what he suggests. I took him my 2013 103 at 1,000 miles for cams and tune and he really woke it up. Strongest bike I'd ever had. Curious what he recommends for the wet heads.
Good luck with your decision.
If your bike is still stock, you might find that you'd be pleasantly surprised with cam's, gut the cat out of the pipe and a good tune. That will really wake it up. As mkguitar said, the wet heads have higher compression and allow for a more aggressive cam. Even without headwork.
If you talk to Danny, I'd love to know what he suggests. I took him my 2013 103 at 1,000 miles for cams and tune and he really woke it up. Strongest bike I'd ever had. Curious what he recommends for the wet heads.
Good luck with your decision.
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Road Master
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From: Tomball, Tx.
These are some good solutions for sure. Just have to decide now if I want to invest in these upgrades or just holdout and go for the whole kit come June. My best reason for going with the local guy is, he's local.
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Spoke with Danny just a bit ago and he suggested running S&S 510's, new pushrods, lifters, cam bearing, clutch spring, basically keeping the factory header which he reworks with a collector, etc, Kerker Stout mufflers and him workings a Delphi map directly to the ECM and not having a tuner. He said numbers should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 100hp +/- and around 110tq +/-. I feel like I'm forgetting something from the conversation, but I'm considering this since he is right up the road from me. At least to start with......
Everything I have read about fuel moto's 107 kit is pretty sweet. Either way will be a nice bump from what you have.
Good luck deciding.
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That's pretty much what he did to my limited. 510 cams, decatted the header, Big Sucker intake, tuned straight to the ECM. The mufflers he used were some he put together with screaming eagle outside and baffles he built on the inside. He asked me to try them and said he'd switch for the Rineharts I asked for but I'm very happy with the tone and kept them. I like that he takes the time to pull the head covers and use solid pushrods. I'm extremely happy with what he did. Mine was stock and only had a 1,000 miles on it so I didn't need the lifters or clutch spring. It runs smooth and really pulls strong once over about 3,000 rpm. The cam is a little tall for me and my riding style. I rarely push it anywhere close to the redline but when I do it GOES!! If your on the throttle hard all the time, you'll love it. Mines an air cooled 103. Yours, with the higher compression, should really pull strong.
Everything I have read about fuel moto's 107 kit is pretty sweet. Either way will be a nice bump from what you have.
Good luck deciding.
Everything I have read about fuel moto's 107 kit is pretty sweet. Either way will be a nice bump from what you have.
Good luck deciding.
Last edited by Blue Tick; Oct 25, 2016 at 10:16 PM.
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I've got about 3k on mine now. He says the 510 works well for 2 up and i spend maybe 60/40 2 up on my bike. I don't know if mine will need or would need the new lifters, clutch spring and so on, but I think I would have him do them anyways. I already have an S&S steak AC on mine and he said that was one he liked as well. Exhaust wise, he seemed to like the Kerker Stouts, which I haven't heard much on. He says with the combo he was telling me about those put out some decent numbers. This route does save me about $2k, which would be nice as I have another spot I could put that at. What fuel mileage are you seeing on yours? Did you take a big hit?
I'm spoiled by my Road King that got 45 before I had it completely rebuilt and bumped up to a 103. I bought the limited for road trips with the wife and although I wanted better mileage, she can't go 250 miles at a shot so the lower mileage doesn't bother me. I couldn't burn a full tank with her on it if I wanted to.
I never ask about the numbers or have a dyno sheet so I have no clue what they are. If you want that info, make sure you tell him up front that you want the dyno sheet. I do know that when he built the Road King using SE204 cams that it was making 107 ft lbs and 98hp at one point and that's with true duals. Yours should easily be higher than that.
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I had him change the tune several times. The first tune had big power and an aggressive exhaust note but the mileage sucked. I then had him lean it out in the cruising range and he went a little too far and I really missed the power so I took it back again and, although not quite as much power as the first tune by my butt dyno, it's now a lot smoother, great power, and acceptable mileage. If I go real easy on it, I get about 38 mpg. If I romp on it a lot it's around 36, sometimes 34 if I'm really twisting the throttle.
I'm spoiled by my Road King that got 45 before I had it completely rebuilt and bumped up to a 103. I bought the limited for road trips with the wife and although I wanted better mileage, she can't go 250 miles at a shot so the lower mileage doesn't bother me. I couldn't burn a full tank with her on it if I wanted to.
I never ask about the numbers or have a dyno sheet so I have no clue what they are. If you want that info, make sure you tell him up front that you want the dyno sheet. I do know that when he built the Road King using SE204 cams that it was making 107 ft lbs and 98hp at one point and that's with true duals. Yours should easily be higher than that.
I'm spoiled by my Road King that got 45 before I had it completely rebuilt and bumped up to a 103. I bought the limited for road trips with the wife and although I wanted better mileage, she can't go 250 miles at a shot so the lower mileage doesn't bother me. I couldn't burn a full tank with her on it if I wanted to.
I never ask about the numbers or have a dyno sheet so I have no clue what they are. If you want that info, make sure you tell him up front that you want the dyno sheet. I do know that when he built the Road King using SE204 cams that it was making 107 ft lbs and 98hp at one point and that's with true duals. Yours should easily be higher than that.