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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 09:04 AM
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I just finished a Full stage 2 on my 08.
Pipes, Cams, Intake, Tuner and gaskets. Did the work myself and it was under 1500 total.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 09:51 AM
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I have a good relationship with my dealer, but that doesn't matter. If you want to install cams that are not SE cams, they shouldn't have a problem with you supplying your own. Next, I would find out who's the best wrench in that shop to do the work. In other words, someone that has done dozens of cam installs without comebacks. As for the 4 hours labor, that's what it pays.

So add the cams......$220 plus the labor and parts needed to do the cam install at the dealer $525.........you come up at $745.00. Keep in mind, the $525 was my out the door price.....tax n all.
 

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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 10:00 AM
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Do yourself a favor and get the Woods 222's or Andrews 48's for low end but the 222's have great Mid as well. Here is a dyno that I posted awhile back from a friends bike. Cat removed, RC mufflers and AN ac, tuned with a power vision bought liscence for that. If he had 2.25" baffles it would be better or a 2-n-1.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mjohnson68
Looking at at the Andrews 57's at the moment. What kind of money should the basic cam upgrade run?
$250 – Cams
$200 – Adjustable Push Rods
$125 – S&S Standard lifters
$60 – Inner cam bearings gaskets etc.
So $635 in parts. Then labor (should be around 4 hours) and then either a dyno with your SE tuner if they will tune outside the EPA regs or Tuner with dyno or download.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 01:27 PM
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103" H.O. has the better cam in it. I always thought that just putting a mild Andrews 48 or whatever would be crazy. MHO.

Wouldn't a 555 or bigger with some added compression and a dyno tune really wake his bike up, vs a little bump.

I just couldn't do it any less.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jt metal
103" H.O. has the better cam in it. I always thought that just putting a mild Andrews 48 or whatever would be crazy. MHO.

Wouldn't a 555 or bigger with some added compression and a dyno tune really wake his bike up, vs a little bump.

I just couldn't do it any less.
My head is where yours is in that I wouldn't bother with just cams in a rushmore. I would do the heads as well. With the increased flow and the ability to bump the compression would be worth it. The HO 103 does not run bad at all.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mjohnson68
I'm thinking of doing a cam upgrade on my 14 Ultra Classic.

what would be a good cam for good torque and hp?

I already have a stage 1 setup with the V&H header and breather and pipes. As well as a Screaming Eagle tuner.

im thinking of dumping the tuner for a TTS or FP3 or maybe even the Thundermax.

a local shop has quoted me 1300 for their setup and a second shop was doing the oil pump as well and going to be 2500. Seems a bit high but not sure what everyone else is paying.

thanks!
I'm a huge fan of the Andrews 57H. No regrets whatsoever. There are cams that will require head work.
You may find guidance by calling these guys: http://www.woodcarbs.com/cams.htm

Whatever you decide, cams are an upgrade I have ZERO regret doing. The difference in stage 1 is unbelievable. As for the tune, I bought the FP3, had V&H send me a custom tune, and am in the process of an auto-tune now. There are many different opinions here on tuners. I'm happy with mine, and that's all that matters. Good luck with whatever you decide!
 
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Old Mar 3, 2017 | 06:35 PM
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Cam upgrade is worth it just to install new inner bearings and lifters. My two cents....The Redshift 527 is similar to an se204 with more lift. Cyclerama 570 is another good one.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mjohnson68
I'm thinking of doing a cam upgrade on my 14 Ultra Classic.

what would be a good cam for good torque and hp?

I already have a stage 1 setup with the V&H header and breather and pipes. As well as a Screaming Eagle tuner.

im thinking of dumping the tuner for a TTS or FP3 or maybe even the Thundermax.

a local shop has quoted me 1300 for their setup and a second shop was doing the oil pump as well and going to be 2500. Seems a bit high but not sure what everyone else is paying.

thanks!
If your doing cam's and tuner (Only) then stick with something that will give a bit more low end with mid range bump.A lot of these guys start saying other things than what you requested and thats all well and good but I'm trying to steer you in the right direction on what I know works. The 57 cam likes at least 10.1 comp to make it work good and needs 10.3 to make it shine. The 222's from woods are more expensive than andrews but they are a souped up version of the SE 204's which imo was one of the best SE cams to date. The 222's along with a good tune and exhaust with 2.25" baffles, such as some of the Rineharts, will give you pleanty of low end grunt and gains in the mid-range dept as well. All of this with out head work and a comp. bump.
By the way, forget the Thunder max and the fp3, either use a Power Vision dealer or TTS tuner. With the power vision you can buy a license for say $150 and get it tuned, thats a pretty good deal if you ask me.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 07:44 PM
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Not worth "just a cam" change in a Rushmore.
With what you have and on a Ultra add......
Rivera game changer and a PV license (use one of your friends PV) to correct gear ratios.
Less than $400 total.
Less than two hours total install in the garage.
 
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