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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 08:25 PM
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So my ultra classic started with an issue last fall. When I go to start it sometimes it will just turn and turn. I let off the starter hit it again and it fires right up. I held the starter once for about ten seconds just to see if it would start while doing this. It just kept turning and backfired twice. Let off hit the starter and fired right up. It does occasionally start on the first try. Occasionally it may take three or four. Most times it starts on the second attempt. It has a stage one with SE pro tuner. Started fine for the 2 1/2 after the tune before this problem. So far the only thing I've tried were new spark plugs. Also it runs fine after it starts.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 08:42 PM
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Once you turn the run switch on, do you wait a few seconds until you hear the fuel pump stop priming before hitting the starter?
 
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this can be a weak battery- all the power is used to crank and not enough power is available for the fuel pump, ecm and ignition.

I'd pull your battery and load test it at autozone- while it is out clean and check the cable connections on both ends.

do NOT trust the battery pull strap- it is probably chafed thru about 80% and will drop the battery on your tank!

when removing battery, pull negative cables first.

on install negative cables LAST

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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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Once you turn the run switch on, do you wait a few seconds until you hear the fuel pump stop priming before hitting the starter?
Yes I do.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
this can be a weak battery- all the power is used to crank and not enough power is available for the fuel pump, ecm and ignition.

I'd pull your battery and load test it at autozone- while it is out clean and check the cable connections on both ends.

do NOT trust the battery pull strap- it is probably chafed thru about 80% and will drop the battery on your tank!

when removing battery, pull negative cables first.

on install negative cables LAST

mike
I was thinking the same thing to be honest. It seems if on the compression stroke it has a hard time for half a second to get turning. Might just be time for a new battery.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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wscott tracks battery prices for us- the Deka is pretty good, but this last time I went with the yuasa ETX for $132

there are plenty threads if you want to go down that rat hole

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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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That makes some sense. My 07 RK won't fire when starting in gear. But it starts right up in neutral. I guess the clutch resistance could have just enough drag to pull juice away from the pump and ecm.

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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 04:56 PM
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If you have a VOM meter put leads on battery while cranking it over. See how low the voltage drops. I just went through all this with my 2011 SG. in the end I added 5% cranking fuel with my PowerVision tuner and now it fires like it used to. I found that each time you turn on key it gets a cold cranking "Squirt" so by turning it on several times you are "enrichening" the cold start fuel. Does it start fine after the first start of the day? Thats what mine was doing? This started after I rebuilt mine to the FM 107. Never had this problem with my last FM 107 build but each engine is a bit different I guess?
 
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I went to my locale Harley dealer. And was going to get some new spark plugs. The parts guy said i should use Screaming Eagle plugs. So I did and everytime I started my bike it would backfire. So I went back to the HD dealer and got the stock plugs and it never happend agian.
 
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The 07's were fitted with Idle Air Controllers. (IAC). The IAC was responsible for idle/start. Over time crud could build up on their 'seat' causing them not to 'park' properly - resulting in hard starts. The fix was either replace or clean.
 
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