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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 11:50 AM
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Anyone else have a problem with Baker? I bought one of their anti overshift pawls, installed it & it is having a hard time down shifting. Getting false neutrals, won't down shift unless you blip the throttle just right, & 1st is impossible from neutral (you have to bump it into 2nd & then down into first. I made sure that the adjustment eccentric was at 12 o'clock, adjusted it forward & rearward in small increments up to 1/4 turn each way, still the same. I have contacted Baker, all they have to say is it sounds like you are doing everything right. Maybe the shift drum has been changed or something else in the trans has been changed out. Or that maybe they did a shift drum change & I have to buy a different shift drum. Or just not get back to me. I took the original pawl lever & put it on, you can down shift (if you press down on the lever) & up shift but the lever is not parallel to the dowel & the talon at the rear is too high. Baker also said that the lever should be close to what the stock is but it is far from close.
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 12:59 PM
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Pard, it's the responsibility of a manufacturer to build a high quality part...which BAKER does...to provide good instructions. ..and provide good support for their parts. The big flyer in all of this is the mechanical ability of the installer. The manufacturer. ..nor we out here on the World Wide Web. ..have any ability to actually be there when you're doing the deed.

If you've contacted the company and they've signed off on what you've done, they've fulfilled their responsibility, and there's nothing more they can do for you. If you're the typical DIY owner that shows up on there forums, it's probably time to take your bike to a competent mechanic. Do not be surprised if they elect to discard your parts and start fresh with their own choice of parts. If the reason why is unclear, lemme know, I'll get back to you.

I'm a pretty competent mechanic, but gear work and transmission work is not within my skill set, and like Inspector Harry Callahan once said..."A man's gotta know his limitations. "
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 01:32 PM
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In answer to your original question."Anyone else have a problem with Baker?" the answer is NO.
Their products and customer service have been excellent. As the stock HD parts have worn out on my 08 RK I have replaced them with Baker Products. I have a little over 40,000 miles on a DD7 gearset and it has performed perfectly. I'm also using their Compensator, Additude primary chain adjuster, high torque inner primary bearing and their Heavy Duty Throw out bearing Kit. Everything has performed flawlessly so far.

When I have called with a technical question there has always been someone there to give me the answers I need, typically it has been Mark. When I had a starter kick back issue caused by my ACR's not working properly damaging my Baker Additude primary chain adjuster Mark gave me a break on the replacement.

This is a good company
 
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Veekness
Pard, it's the responsibility of a manufacturer to build a high quality part...which BAKER does...to provide good instructions. ..and provide good support for their parts. The big flyer in all of this is the mechanical ability of the installer. The manufacturer. ..nor we out here on the World Wide Web. ..have any ability to actually be there when you're doing the deed.

If you've contacted the company and they've signed off on what you've done, they've fulfilled their responsibility, and there's nothing more they can do for you. If you're the typical DIY owner that shows up on there forums, it's probably time to take your bike to a competent mechanic. Do not be surprised if they elect to discard your parts and start fresh with their own choice of parts. If the reason why is unclear, lemme know, I'll get back to you.

I'm a pretty competent mechanic, but gear work and transmission work is not within my skill set, and like Inspector Harry Callahan once said..."A man's gotta know his limitations. "
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Dude that is probably one of the most arrogant *** useless posts I have ever read. The guy is asking if anyone has had any issues with Baker or it's parts because of an issue he is having and you get on here and try to tell him he does not know what he is doing. Great job.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 00FattyT
Dude that is probably one of the most arrogant *** useless posts I have ever read. The guy is asking if anyone has had any issues with Baker or it's parts because of an issue he is having and you get on here and try to tell him he does not know what he is doing. Great job.
I disagree. I gave him an overview of the deal, and if that offends you, so be it. It's what I see as the truth, and if truth equals arrogance to you, bummer days.


And as far as not know what the OP is doing, that's exactly germane. If he KNEW what he was doing, he would have no need to be out here on the World Wide Web asking. If I post a question on a thread, that's EXACTLY what it means...I don't know what I am doing. And the work that he is attempting is something that I know, right up front, that I don't know what I am doing. So I pay others to do the job.


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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 02:19 PM
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I have the over-shift shift arm in my 2000 FXDX. It corrected the over shift and did not make any difference on upshifting (except the over shift) or down shifting.. I would check to make sure that when you reassembled stuff, that none of the arms are touching anything. A 99 still have the shift pawl adjustment and it may not be adjusted correctly.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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If you wan to post pics from the PC use the Mountain in the reply title bar.. You can copy them there..

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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Don't worry, I have thick skin. As for do I know what I am doing, I believe so. Been a mechanic for 40+ years, ASE Master Tech. I can rebuild transmissions standard & automatics, engines, diag problems ect ect ect. I have replaced the head gaskets, put in an alternator, changed the gearing & belt to put a 150-80-16 rear tire, put in gear drive cams & put on the DIY air ride. But I am human. I looked over everything again, sometimes it pays to walk away when you are dealing with a problem, & most of the time it is an easy thing or the simplest thing there is. I am finding I have 2 problems, 1st was when I put it back together I leaned the lever forward more that I had it before, still at a decent angle for the clearance in the transmission, but the lever going through the primary case, not, it had some clearance issues underneath. Short fix, shorten the rod that connects the 2 levers. Took it for a ride, downshifts & up shifts, but I think the new (5 months) heim joints on the linkage are tight, will relube everything & try again. I was a little disappointed with Bakers service, just seemed like oh well you have a problem good luck, or spend more money. This was my fault as to why it did what it did, I was just hoping that maybe someone else had the same problem, but instead get told to take it to a shop to get it worked on, like they don't hire idiots once in a while. Just glad I figured out what the problem was, just wish I had noticed it sooner. But when you work on vehicles all day & the shop is hotter than, well I will stop there. I just don't feel like working on anything when I get home, so it waits for the weekend. Thanks

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testing, guess you need to school me, Mountain? the pic being posted but I don't see any mountains on the page
 
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