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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 07:21 AM
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I am thinking about putting true duals on my 16 Street Glide Special. Do you have to change the air cleaner if you put on true duals and a power commander?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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Well you do not HAVE to. You are right there almost to a stage 1 might as well complete it if you can. Better Air cleaner more air. Better exhaust more air flow less heat.
 
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Yeah that is what I thought.
 
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Originally Posted by pjack1890
I am thinking about putting true duals on my 16 Street Glide Special. Do you have to change the air cleaner if you put on true duals and a power commander?
First of all, I am not a mechanic nor technician. However, I been around these Harleys for a while, and have seen,in person, and in posts from folks I trust, on the subject of modifying their motorcycles for better performance....and these days, better heat MANAGEMENT too.

So, with that disclosure, I humbly offer to you my tidbit of knowledge on the subject. If you change mufflers for better sound, you get better sound. If you then add a high performance air cleaner ( ala Screaming Eagle ), you get MORE AIR coming IN, and with the higher output flow mufflers you first put on,
you get an engine that is now flowing MORE air FASTER IN and OUT! Can you say now MUCH LEANER RUNNING?

NOW, you don't have a choice left. YOU HAVE to add some type of FUEL management system to your new machine configuration or run the risk of overheating and a complete engine meltdown.

I.E. , Pipes by themselves don't force you to buy a PCV. An air cleaner by itself doesn't force a PCV purchase. It's the COMBINATION of new pipes and new air cleaner, which causes a higher INFLOW of air, along with the new pipes that produce a higher OUTFLOW of air, that causes you to HAVE to add the fuel management to produce a higher flow of FUEL intake to level out the proper air/fuel ratio needed.

Make sense?
 
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Yes it makes perfectly good sense. Thank you for taking to time to write that up.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pjack1890
I am thinking about putting true duals on my 16 Street Glide Special. Do you have to change the air cleaner if you put on true duals and a power commander?
No.

The stock Harley air cleaner flows more air then a stock Harley motor can draw. Putting on a "high performance" air cleaner will NOT cause the motor to pull more air. In fact, no air cleaner at all will not cause the stock motor to flow more air.

Now if other mods to include intake throat, head, valve, piston, and exhaust are done then one should look at an air cleaner that will provide the necessary flow.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pine Tree
No.

The stock Harley air cleaner flows more air then a stock Harley motor can draw. Putting on a "high performance" air cleaner will NOT cause the motor to pull more air. In fact, no air cleaner at all will not cause the stock motor to flow more air.

Now if other mods to include intake throat, head, valve, piston, and exhaust are done then one should look at an air cleaner that will provide the necessary flow.
on a Rushmore your A/C doesn't become restrictive until you do "big" mods.

Now, that being said, there are much better looking ones out there than stock - especially if you want to go coverless.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pine Tree
No.

The stock Harley air cleaner flows more air then a stock Harley motor can draw. Putting on a "high performance" air cleaner will NOT cause the motor to pull more air. In fact, no air cleaner at all will not cause the stock motor to flow more air.

Now if other mods to include intake throat, head, valve, piston, and exhaust are done then one should look at an air cleaner that will provide the necessary flow.
My 07 96" has true duals and cams with the stock AC. It has been dynoed by HD and a map downloaded. No add on tuner. It runs great with a very flat power band from low to high. Don't remember the exact numbers but it will pull me back from highway speeds in 5th.
 
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Originally Posted by pjack1890
I am thinking about putting true duals on my 16 Street Glide Special. Do you have to change the air cleaner if you put on true duals and a power commander?
Not if you don't want to, the Power Commander should be enough to richen up your air-fuel-ratio.

Because you do have a Power Commander you can add an aftermarket Air Cleaner, if you want to.

If you want to keep the stock AC, you can add a K&N Air Filter to the stock AC housing to help out
with air flow.

Since you are adding true duals, and getting rid of the Catalytic Converter, which will cut down on
the heat from the exhaust. That will be a plus for you & your passenger.

John
 

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