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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 11:20 PM
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Here's how I'd rank the shocks I've used 1-10 scale.

On my 2003 RKC: air ride: 2.5 My ohlins: 8.5 (model 2.5A). Prog 944's 6.0

On my 2015 RGS: Only the 12" premium. Even loaded down, they are decent. I'd give them a 6.5/10

Moral of the story..... Ohlins make the air ride seem like a little B!itch.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 01:09 AM
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But Cajun, "touring" is the key word here. It should ride plush, not like a dump truck.
If it was Cadillac-style plush, I'd be tempted to go for some of the onboard compressor air suspension like Arnotts/Legend etc. Fancy suspension requires fine more complex tuning, e.g. spring and dampening.

Can't recommend any specific brand from my own experience tho.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wodan
Fancy suspension requires fine more complex tuning, e.g. spring and dampening.

Can't recommend any specific brand from my own experience tho.
The beauty of 'fancy' suspension is that the engineers who designed and made it have done all the hard work. A pal recently had racing-grade suspension fitted to his Wide Glide, front and rear. I told him it would be a lot faster, which he doubted - he simply wanted to be much more comfortable. Sure enough - he has found that it is much faster and now has to watch his speed more carefully!

It is well worth trying some, but be very selective - there are plenty of aftermarket brands who don't provide much improvement. I can speak for Ohlins!
 

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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DK Custom - ST
Here's a REPORT LINK we did on Rear Suspension. Check it out!

In the report, you will find lots of useful information, including this chart:



You can see from the chart, the Twin Adjustables got more points of improvement in ride quality over the HD shocks and even the Progressives for a better price.

Here's a LINK to the Twin Adjustables if you'd like to read up on them!

Hope this helps!

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Question. Where to Ohlins fit on this chart for comparison?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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Question. Where to Ohlins fit on this chart for comparison?
Good question. It's not as much help while it excludes high profile brands. I seem to recall there were more shocks in earlier lists.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Wodan
If it was Cadillac-style plush, I'd be tempted to go for some of the onboard compressor air suspension like Arnotts/Legend etc. .
The major advantage of air ride shocks is the ability to change the ride from plush highway rides to firm twisty, from 1-up to 2-up on the fly with a simple push of a button that will increase or decrease the air pressure - even while you ride.
 

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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DanHappy
Question. Where to Ohlins fit on this chart for comparison?
Ohlins, at a cost of $900 to $1000 fit in at the 80 points range.

Excerpt from report:

"What we Tested

We tested over 2 dozen different shocks, including all the popular brands/models. We test 11’, 12’, 13” & 14” shocks.

We made the decision to not list the products we tested that produced less than favorable results, nor have we listed the products that were very expensive and produced results not significantly better than less expensive options.

We have included a few of the more popular model shocks to give a point of reference when comparing.
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Originally Posted by grbrown
Good question. It's not as much help while it excludes high profile brands. I seem to recall there were more shocks in earlier lists.

We have not removed any shocks from our report charts, the chart above is just one of many published in our suspension reports. All charts can be seen at the following links:

Rear Suspension REPORT

Front Suspension REPORT


The charts would be a hot mess if we put everything we tested in there (there were over 2 dozen)...the only shocks we get consistently asked about that we did not include on the chart are the Ohlins...and mostly by folks that already have Ohlins.

We may modify our charts to include them, just so the question about Ohlins is answered in the charts.

btw, we are an Authorized Ohlins Dealer, but we can't, in good conscience, recommend spending $1000 to get the same ride quality that you can get from $550. If they were better (for the price) we would recommend them. We would make more profit a on $900 or $1000 Ohlins sale than on a $525 TA sale.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DK Custom
...the only shocks we get consistently asked about that we did not include on the chart are the Ohlins...and mostly by folks that already have Ohlins.

We may modify our charts to include them, just so the question about Ohlins is answered in the charts.
There's another good reason for including Ohlins, plus one or two other high profile brands that are even more popular, if only for comparison purposes.

Yes I own Ohlins, since before Ohlins themselves started producing suspension for Harleys. Their products, courtesy another distinguished HDF sponsor, offered the first truly major high quality suspension upgrade for us. That DK now have products which you consider even better is just great, but is thanks to groundwork done elsewhere. Harley owners can at last look forward to a major improvement in ride quality, which we've deserved for a long time, and thanks in part to the good work DK has put in! For many members Ohlins has provided the datum by which other brands are judged.
 

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Replaced the stock shocks on my '14 SGS with Prog 944's in back and Prog Mono Tubes up front. Couldn't be happier, especially in the twisties when I'm leaving the rest of my group far behind. But, they're old, I'm only 70.
 
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Originally Posted by cajun1957a
Raider Bill, I too have and O3 RKC and I am totally happy with the stock air shocks. The whole Idea was not to cheap out when the factory put them on. It was for adjustability and very easily done with a small hand pump instead of a shock wrench. I also have a Police solo "air ride" seat on my skoot, so I'm air over air. I am 60 year old and cant understand what the fuss is all about. If you want total comfort, drive a cage. These are Harleys after all, it goes with the ride.

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Try a pair of $300 Progressives. You don't have to settle for a shitty hard ride. More money, even better ride and you don't have to settle for a cage to enjoy comfort. Those who don't know what the fuss is about are those who haven't tried an "upgrade". I know this is a couple years old but song remains the same.
 
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