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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:18 PM
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Hello,

I had the bike out Saturday for about a 40 mile ride and everything went great. I stopped to eat and when I jumped back on the bike the idle was very low (500RPM) and the bike was chugging and backfiring a little. I had to limp home on the bike and it felt like it was missing. When I got home the bike now struggles to idle and stay running.

As a background, The bike is a 2000 EG EFI with a PC5, air cleaner and V&H 2-1. Engine temp sensor, CPS, and battery have been replaced recently. There is spark in both cylinders and plug wires were replaced last year. there are no codes and the only historical code was the CPS, and that is why it was replaced.

I have a funeral for my best friend next week and I have to have the bike ready. The dealer cannot assure that I will have it by then so I need to fix it myself. Any suggestions or guidance is appreciated.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:33 PM
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I'd try it without the PC5 first to see if it's the problem. I used to have a 2000 RK with the MM. I got tired of fighting it and swapped it to carb. I'm surprised a dealer would consider working on an 18 yr. old MM system. Usually, no one wants to touch those tar babies.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:35 PM
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I will try without the PC5 tomorrow. The unit was replaced last year due to the older one going out after years. I don't have the time to switch to carb right now otherwise I would. Thank you.
 
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Ended up taking it to the dealer to ensure I can make the funeral.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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If the rubber boot that covers the ECM was missing, you can have water in the ECM. That was a very common problem because the MM ECM is mounted with the connector up and it should have been mounted down.

If you wind up needing an ECM, PM me.
 
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Ed,

Thank you very much, I appreciate the help.
 
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No Problem - MM is an easy system and I can walk you through most anything with it.
 
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I had the same issues with a '98 ultra I had. Turned out that my ECM went bad. It was a carb conversion time.
 
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You already did the two things that i always suggest, Check battery, and trouble codes. Next thing is clean the throttle body, including the two air bleeds at the top of the mouth, and clean and inspect the IAC. Then I would try taking the PCV out of line. I doubt that is your problem though. I would suspect a fuel problem.

Other possibilities:

Dirty air cleaner
Dirty Fuel filter
Holes in hoses inside tank (open can and listen for gurgling)
Bad Fuel Pressure Regulator
Throttle Position Sensor bad or misaligned.

Good Luck.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by larsfum
You already did the two things that i always suggest, Check battery, and trouble codes. Next thing is clean the throttle body, including the two air bleeds at the top of the mouth, and clean and inspect the IAC. Then I would try taking the PCV out of line. I doubt that is your problem though. I would suspect a fuel problem.

Other possibilities:

Dirty air cleaner
Dirty Fuel filter
Holes in hoses inside tank (open can and listen for gurgling)
Bad Fuel Pressure Regulator
Throttle Position Sensor bad or misaligned.

Good Luck.
My 2000 developed a stumble @ 60k miles with quick throttle twists at lower rpms. I replaced the filter and check valve/line with Drag Specialties
and the pump from fuelpumpfactory. All these components looks identical to the OEM which isn't available and my original lines didn't appear to be leaking. I did take it to the dealer for a dyno run and the curves look good and the bike runs great.
 
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