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Old Jun 11, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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So I am new to the forum but have used the guidance y'all throw out through the years on several builds. I just got a 12 ultra limited, my first touring bike and first efi bike. So here is my first of what I assume will be many posts:

Recommendatios on exhaust (true dual or cross over), get rid of catalitic converter and get a programmer to remap, keep the cat go with slip ons and remap anyway, and recommendations on brands for all (but I'm leaning toward the thunder max and Reinhardt true dual when my wife stops reminding me what I just spent on the bike). Thanks in advance,

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Since you're asking...I'd go with a two into one exhaust and call Fuel Moto and work with them for a tuner. I'd likely go with a Rinehart exhaust.

My priority is a good running, happy engine. Not making a bunch of noise or drag racing a touring bike.
 
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If its an abs bike, get the brake fluid flushed asap. Although the focus of failed abs bikes is 08-11, 2012's have also reported issues.

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If its an abs bike, get the brake fluid flushed asap. Although the focus of failed abs bikes is 08-11, 2012's have also reported issues.

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Thanks, I was looking at the threads on that last night. I'm going to check this week if it's been done. All the work was at the dealer before now so it should be a phone call.
 
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Originally Posted by Veekness
Since you're asking...I'd go with a two into one exhaust and call Fuel Moto and work with them for a tuner. I'd likely go with a Rinehart exhaust.

My priority is a good running, happy engine. Not making a bunch of noise or drag racing a touring bike.
What does the 2 into 1 do for the motor? I know on my old FXR it had to do with equalling out back pressure. Is that an issue on these since they "have to run" a cat in the system?
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+1 on contacting Fuel Moto.
I had Thunder Max on a few bikes and switched to Power Vision on the 2 bikes we have now. Power Vision is simple to use and if you buy it from FM they will have the map you need.
I ran Dresser duals for years but like the performance from the 2:1:2 Power Duals were have now.
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Originally Posted by Veekness
Since you're asking...I'd go with a two into one exhaust and call Fuel Moto and work with them for a tuner. I'd likely go with a Rinehart exhaust.

My priority is a good running, happy engine. Not making a bunch of noise or drag racing a touring bike.
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+1 on contacting Fuel Moto.
I had Thunder Max on a few bikes and switched to Power Vision on the 2 bikes we have now. Power Vision is simple to use and if you buy it from FM they will have the map you need.
I ran Dresser duals for years but like the performance from the 2:1:2 Power Duals were have now.
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If youre looking for performance, forget TD's. If performance without breaking the bank is of interest, decat your exhaust and install cams. A 2n1 or performance 2-1-2 does little compared to decatting your stock header and camming the bike. Especially if its a 103". The stock 2-1-2 header is actually a decent performer. And decatting and installing cams will cost hundreds less then some of the pipes mentioned.

Take your time and research. Meet and ride with others that have done these type of upgrades. Then decide.

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Originally Posted by KumaRide
If youre looking for performance, forget TD's. If performance without breaking the bank is of interest, decat your exhaust and install cams. A 2n1 or performance 2-1-2 does little compared to decatting your stock header and camming the bike. Especially if its a 103". The stock 2-1-2 header is actually a decent performer. And decatting and installing cams will cost hundreds less then some of the pipes mentioned.

Take your time and research. Meet and ride with others that have done these type of upgrades. Then decide.

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I looked at cutting out the cat on the stock pipes, seems easy enough and I know how to weld so no problems getting it done. I did see that if you cut the cat the bike may need a re-map so would you say to look at a programmer or just use the stock computer and get a program? What cams seem to work best in your opinion? I did a cam chest kit on my Evo but that was with dome pistons new heads cylinders the works. Is going with just cams on this the way to go or would it lead to increased pressure and need new calves and springs and all? Thanks for the input.
 
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Originally Posted by Lukas2336
What does the 2 into 1 do for the motor? I know on my old FXR it had to do with equalling out back pressure. Is that an issue on these since they "have to run" a cat in the system?
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Running a cat in the exhaust is completely up to you unless you are in a state where your bike is inspected at certain intervals. Many of us remove our cats, because our scooters aren't inspected. Exhaust systems are probably the most subjective issues on Harleys...to me, a two into one offers the potential of just slightly more torque, plus it equalizes the exhaust pulses...to me, it's a smoother sound, and in my opinion, Harley engines run better with two into ones...that's the way they were originally designed, and since these modern engines remain throwbacks, it is still a valid premise.

And for me, also, I come from a time where Harley exhausts only came off the right side. Whether it was two into ones on the touring bikes, or staggered duals on the FX and XL lines, the exhaust always was on the right hand side. At some time in the early eighties, the touring bikes started sporting duals on both sides...and that has always looked weird to me.

For guys who are later into the game than I, the opposite seems to be the case. So it's just what appears good to you, I reckon, and whatever your priorities are. A Harley engine just seems to be a happier camper with a two into one system...but again, my opinion only. Others will disagree. But what does seem to be a universal acknowledgement is that the two cylinders need to be balanced for optimum power. In other words, a crossover, or siamesed system. A true dual system seems to give up a significant amount of low end torque. There's ways to gain some of that back, though.
 
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