I Completely Solved the Sumping Issue Etc
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From: Edmond Oklahoma
As for service cost, the first service on the BMW is $270. The first on my Harley was $310. I"ve had 5 BMW bikes and never had an issue with any of them. This bike is nothing flat of amazing on the highway for ride quality, handling, and power. 160 hp and 130 ft lbs of torque. It has every feature my 2018 CVO Limited has for darn near half the price. My CVO was $46 out the door. I got this bike for $23.8K, less than a street glide and it would run rings around my CVO. Love American made but Harley really needs to step up to the plate for the newer generations to commit. Oh and it has a center stand, electric adjustable windshield, Sirius XM Navigation, plus I can change the suspension on the fly with a button. Did I mention amazing power and I don't have to dump $2000 more on pipes, a tuner, a download etc etc.
If someone wants to try out something different, the FJR is cheaper and has very good reliability. I only sold my because my knees can't handle being tucked under my hips. Even with the taller seat and lower pegs, the position was very painful after a couple hours ride. But, it is a great bike equipped about the same as the BMW.
Beary
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From: Viet Vet, crossroads
There is no reason to diss a great MC.. so you are correct.
HD could learn a few things and the next few years they will be forced to learn quality.They could look at BMW or Honda.
They both make fine a MC.
HD could learn a few things and the next few years they will be forced to learn quality.They could look at BMW or Honda.
They both make fine a MC.
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From: Syracuse NY
My big issue with BMW motorcycles is the rider position and the high-up ride that makes it very difficult to flat foot them unless you are well over 6 feet tall. Honestly, I'm not sure how many of the BMW riders that I see can manage the bike for that reason. I see a lot of BMW riders who (like me) cannot flat foot that bike.
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From: NC
Started riding Harley's in 1986. Around 2000 it seems there were all kinds of issues with brand new bikes being reported. Had 4 speedometers on a new Softail I bought before one actually worked. Here we are again now with the reported sumping, oil pump failures etc etc. Sold the '18 Road King and bought an '18 BMW K1600 GTL. Problem solved for me. I love Harley's, owned 47 of them. Yep 47. Maybe I'll buy another in the future but for now I'm enjoyin the heck out of this BMW.
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From: St. Charles, MO
As for service cost, the first service on the BMW is $270. The first on my Harley was $310. I"ve had 5 BMW bikes and never had an issue with any of them. This bike is nothing flat of amazing on the highway for ride quality, handling, and power. 160 hp and 130 ft lbs of torque. It has every feature my 2018 CVO Limited has for darn near half the price. My CVO was $46 out the door. I got this bike for $23.8K, less than a street glide and it would run rings around my CVO. Love American made but Harley really needs to step up to the plate for the newer generations to commit. Oh and it has a center stand, electric adjustable windshield, Sirius XM Navigation, plus I can change the suspension on the fly with a button. Did I mention amazing power and I don't have to dump $2000 more on pipes, a tuner, a download etc etc.
I hope the BMW give you months and months of happiness (before you trade it in on the next shiny something that catches your eye).
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From: Charleston, SC
He said he solved the issue, and he did. You might not like the way he solved it for himself, but he solved/eliminated it. You still have your problem. He doesn't. So I'd say he solved it too. LOL!
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From: Charleston, SC
The BMW K1600 B was on my short list but BMW's have their own quality and reliability issues. Plus the cost of maintaining and the distance to the nearest shop didn't help. Sure wouldn't mind some of those conveniences like reverse assist. Right now I am completely satisfied with my Road King.
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From: Jax FL
buddy had a choice between the Kawi Concours and 18 Goldwing, he bought the wing, how does the 18 GW compare to the BMW?
he swears he is gonna kill me this weekend, (doing a long trip together), he says my ragged old M8 107 will be outmuscled....and I believe him
he swears he is gonna kill me this weekend, (doing a long trip together), he says my ragged old M8 107 will be outmuscled....and I believe him
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From: Edmond Oklahoma
That report has been posted here before. The problem I have with these reports is that they don't list what they are judging to be problems/issues. For instance, a locked up transmission is completely different than turn signal malfunctioning. On the turn signal, you stand still use hand signals. On the tranny, you're dead in the water, but both are counted as equal. And I would contest strongly that Yamaha has a more than 10% failure rate(11% as stated). I'm sorry but I just don't believe that.
Beary