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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 04:37 PM
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Using a torque adapter at 90 degrees to the torque wrench handle will torque the bolt at the setting of the torque wrench as hattitude has pointed out. Sometimes you might find yourself in a spot where a different angle will allow the necessary clearance that 90 degrees won’t work for. This can be done with a couple measurements and a calculation.

Here is is a link to a calculator that will give the proper torque wrench setting to achieve a given torque on a bolt with the adapter at any measurable angle to the torque wrench handle.

http://www.cncexpo.com/TorqueAdapter.aspx
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by skydude426
Using a torque adapter at 90 degrees to the torque wrench handle will torque the bolt at the setting of the torque wrench as hattitude has pointed out. Sometimes you might find yourself in a spot where a different angle will allow the necessary clearance that 90 degrees won’t work for. This can be done with a couple measurements and a calculation.

Here is is a link to a calculator that will give the proper torque wrench setting to achieve a given torque on a bolt with the adapter at any measurable angle to the torque wrench handle.

http://www.cncexpo.com/TorqueAdapter.aspx

Cool thanks. How much of a torque value differnece do you notice with it at 90?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by miketv84
Cool thanks. How much of a torque value differnece do you notice with it at 90?
zero. A torque adapter at 90 degrees to the torque wrench handle will torque the fastener at the exact setting of the torque wrench. If any other angle is used, the output torque changes and the calculator must be used.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
No way to mess up timing unless you get into the cam plate and remove the cam gears....

They probably meant making sure the pushrods are on the base circle (cylinder at TDC) when you torque down the rocker arms.... and wait for the lifters to bleed down before rotating the engine.... open pushrod tubes and make sure you can spin the pushrods with your fingers. That's how you'll know they have bled down, then rotate the other cylinder to TDC to torque that one... again, wait for lifters to bleed down before rotating the engine after that cylinder is done....

It's not that hard... just follow the manual and take your time


PS- here's an old pic I took when I did the rocker plate drill mod..

Just for discussion's sake... I've drilled everyone I've ever been into and really can't see any particular reason for the .125" size. Other than a 1/8th" bit is pretty common. A long time ago I started using a #20 bit for the hell of it and can't see any issue's with the larger holes. I do re-chamfer also.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2019 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by skydude426
zero. A torque adapter at 90 degrees to the torque wrench handle will torque the fastener at the exact setting of the torque wrench. If any other angle is used, the output torque changes and the calculator must be used.

Ahhh gotcha . Thanks
 
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tired
Just for discussion's sake... I've drilled everyone I've ever been into and really can't see any particular reason for the .125" size. Other than a 1/8th" bit is pretty common. A long time ago I started using a #20 bit for the hell of it and can't see any issue's with the larger holes. I do re-chamfer also.
I read a lot about this mod before doing it to my bike..... The way it was explained in a couple posts on other forums that I read, was to maintain some of the OEM chamfer. Additionally, most of the techs that posted seemed to think the OEM size works well most of the time, so a dramatic increase in the size of the hole wasn't necessary.

The way it looks in my pics with the .125" bit, looks like a good compromise to me. Bigger hole than OEM, but with enough OEM chamfer still there... It's also pretty easy for anyone to do. I am not a machinist, but can make a hole bigger. I've never dealt with, nor do I really know how to, properly add chamfer to a hole.

Obviously, I wouldn't want a hole without any chamfer, so if you drill bigger than .125" and maintain chamfer...... other than at some point it could/would be overkill, I can't see a problem....
 
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I've seen a number of references regarding using a .125" OR an 1/8" drill bit when it comes to drilling out the oil return holes as if they are different sizes; they are the same size. The final piece to the puzzle is routing the vent out of the air cleaner and to the ground.
 

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Old Mar 4, 2019 | 08:23 AM
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I just did the return hole mod last night. Drilled to .125 then I used a .250 bit to clean up the bevel because there was no way a counter sink was going to fit in there. I've heard this adds 3- 4 ft lbs across the board lol
 
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Originally Posted by Screamin beagle
I just did the return hole mod last night. Drilled to .125 then I used a .250 bit to clean up the bevel because there was no way a counter sink was going to fit in there. I've heard this adds 3- 4 ft lbs across the board lol
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