Installing Ride Str8
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Iclick,
You are a piece of work - like no other, you must not be married! I have so moved on, and will not come down to your level of irrational thinking just to satisfy your ego - I will leave this thread reminding you all I posted was a mere response to a thread I found, old being beside the fact, from a dead man that was in place to explain the differences between two products and you want to blow this completly out of proportion - typical man!
Signed: Wil's former girlfriend!!!
You are a piece of work - like no other, you must not be married! I have so moved on, and will not come down to your level of irrational thinking just to satisfy your ego - I will leave this thread reminding you all I posted was a mere response to a thread I found, old being beside the fact, from a dead man that was in place to explain the differences between two products and you want to blow this completly out of proportion - typical man!
Signed: Wil's former girlfriend!!!
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That explains alot!!! You and TT have inadvertently turned more than a few potential customers toward the very competition you hold so much animosity toward. Thanks for making my decision for a rear stabilizer that much easier by not only eliminating the TT from consideration but also digging up an old thread written by someone on the forum whose opinion I hold in high regard about a competing product. I don't know if Ride-Str8 will get my business but I can guarantee that TT won't. Typical man I know, and for the record yes I am married.
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Hello Iclick,
This is True-Track and we have just read this thread and have some comments. As always bikers know everything and nothing.
#1 - Harley in 2009 has changed their frames and made a 4 point isolator mounting system, a heavier swingarm, a bigger tire, and guess what - Harley still has the lateral movement in the swingarm under load conditions.
# 2 - Harley also has but one anchor on the top side of the engine.
The reason we know this - we do R & D on these bikes to develope our products. We do have a True-Track for the 2009-2010 models FYI and for all the forum riders reading this. Yes we purchase a new model every year to stay ahead of all the imitators out there as we are not only the leaders, but the innovators in swing arm pivot anchor suspension stabilization. Hats off to Eric Buell as well. Though you have given your best opinion it would behoove all to have all the facts. Past thread writers you mention indicate that True-Track has a drag problem on right hand turns. There have been 9 revisions since the product was first brought to the market including a revision to adjust for the aggressive riders. They could only get aggressive enough after the TT stabilizer was installed and the rear steer was removed - we take this as a compliment.
In late 2007 we introduced the Low Ryder model designed for the Harley factory lowered models which provides a no lean angle loss and stability that no other unit can duplicate.
By the way, do the imitators especially those that are cheaper in price, provide a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser - do they stand behind their product as True-Track does?
This is True-Track and we have just read this thread and have some comments. As always bikers know everything and nothing.
#1 - Harley in 2009 has changed their frames and made a 4 point isolator mounting system, a heavier swingarm, a bigger tire, and guess what - Harley still has the lateral movement in the swingarm under load conditions.
# 2 - Harley also has but one anchor on the top side of the engine.
The reason we know this - we do R & D on these bikes to develope our products. We do have a True-Track for the 2009-2010 models FYI and for all the forum riders reading this. Yes we purchase a new model every year to stay ahead of all the imitators out there as we are not only the leaders, but the innovators in swing arm pivot anchor suspension stabilization. Hats off to Eric Buell as well. Though you have given your best opinion it would behoove all to have all the facts. Past thread writers you mention indicate that True-Track has a drag problem on right hand turns. There have been 9 revisions since the product was first brought to the market including a revision to adjust for the aggressive riders. They could only get aggressive enough after the TT stabilizer was installed and the rear steer was removed - we take this as a compliment.
In late 2007 we introduced the Low Ryder model designed for the Harley factory lowered models which provides a no lean angle loss and stability that no other unit can duplicate.
By the way, do the imitators especially those that are cheaper in price, provide a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser - do they stand behind their product as True-Track does?
Additionally I find it insulting your statement "They could only get aggressive enough after the TT stabilizer was installed and the rear steer was removed." Many of us know our machines very well and by no means we do not need your product to have a spirited ride. Good riders adjust to each of their machines characteristics and RIDE, shade tree braggarts stay at starbucks and blame their machines.
Iclick,
No I do not sell True-Track but I did know the inventor for over 20 years and thus know alot about the various models designed and tested before the final product made it to the market. This is a direct quote from Wil Philips the inventor of True-Track who passed away in 2007:
"Ride-Str8 touted to be designed by an engineer is doubtful. Engineering 101 never weld to a casting! The chasis attachment point is 4 1/2 long to the point where it is welded to the cast passenger foot mount. The power train bracket is attached with 3 bolts at the rear, not enough surface area. The attachment point is too far from the pivot point. The attachment point cannot stop the transmission from twisting when cresting a hill and landing. This causes the swing arm pivot boss to crack. The True-Track is attached with 5 bolts and is boxed which acts as a girdle to reinforce the pan rail and prevent twisting so the trans will not crack. The True-Track stabilizer links are stainless steel, vibration isolated with Nitril and USA made. Ride Str8 are a solid type that are made in China, the cheapest you can buy. In fact they can be bought at Orchard Hardware Supply (a Sears Co.). An O-ring is used for vibration elimination under the link - WRONG. Material is architectural aluminum, no radius in corners. This is but a few differences."
Has this shed some light?
Of course riders can choose any stabilizer they wish, with over 20 imitators on the market to choose from, but mis-information can cause more harm than good and result in costly expenses down the road.
Wil Phillips also coined the phrase - True-Track, cheaper than a funeral!
No I do not sell True-Track but I did know the inventor for over 20 years and thus know alot about the various models designed and tested before the final product made it to the market. This is a direct quote from Wil Philips the inventor of True-Track who passed away in 2007:
"Ride-Str8 touted to be designed by an engineer is doubtful. Engineering 101 never weld to a casting! The chasis attachment point is 4 1/2 long to the point where it is welded to the cast passenger foot mount. The power train bracket is attached with 3 bolts at the rear, not enough surface area. The attachment point is too far from the pivot point. The attachment point cannot stop the transmission from twisting when cresting a hill and landing. This causes the swing arm pivot boss to crack. The True-Track is attached with 5 bolts and is boxed which acts as a girdle to reinforce the pan rail and prevent twisting so the trans will not crack. The True-Track stabilizer links are stainless steel, vibration isolated with Nitril and USA made. Ride Str8 are a solid type that are made in China, the cheapest you can buy. In fact they can be bought at Orchard Hardware Supply (a Sears Co.). An O-ring is used for vibration elimination under the link - WRONG. Material is architectural aluminum, no radius in corners. This is but a few differences."
Has this shed some light?
Of course riders can choose any stabilizer they wish, with over 20 imitators on the market to choose from, but mis-information can cause more harm than good and result in costly expenses down the road.
Wil Phillips also coined the phrase - True-Track, cheaper than a funeral!
Iclick,
You are a piece of work - like no other, you must not be married! I have so moved on, and will not come down to your level of irrational thinking just to satisfy your ego - I will leave this thread reminding you all I posted was a mere response to a thread I found, old being beside the fact, from a dead man that was in place to explain the differences between two products and you want to blow this completly out of proportion - typical man!
Signed: Wil's former girlfriend!!!
You are a piece of work - like no other, you must not be married! I have so moved on, and will not come down to your level of irrational thinking just to satisfy your ego - I will leave this thread reminding you all I posted was a mere response to a thread I found, old being beside the fact, from a dead man that was in place to explain the differences between two products and you want to blow this completly out of proportion - typical man!
Signed: Wil's former girlfriend!!!
Iclick, Thanks for your relevant posts. Guys like you, Dawg and Gump to name a few keep this board on a even unbiased keel.
After this this I now believe the progressive link will be a great weekend project for my street glide. Because contrary to your beliefs some products are way over engineered.
Last edited by leicafish; Apr 3, 2010 at 09:35 AM.
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Hey there George,
The $305.00 price is the current special found at our website:
www.true-track.com for the Dyna unit and the touring 1993-2008 models.
Just did a search and came across this post from October 2009 from RAGDOCTOR.
In fact below is the post history from RAGDOCTOR which clearly show "her" repeatedly alleging to work for and represent True-Track. The first of which is... Hello Interested Dyna Owners:
This is Ron from True-Track. After continued calls regarding the HDF39995 special, we have extended the offer until March 31st, 09.
Thank you for your support!
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/searc...archid=4484911
Apparently there is more going on in "Ron's" world than any of us could have expected. Maybe "Ron" can explain what it is "she" does sell being a "she" is a Platinum Sponsor but has only touted Tru-Track products but claims to have only been Wil's long time "girlfriend".
So in conclusion... Ragdoctor is a woman named Ron, S-him is schizophrenic and possibly bi-polar, and along with True-Track has succeeded in showing their collective asses.
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Unbelievable. I must say True-Track is officially on my **** list. I wont buy anything from them. As a matter of fact, if these posts from RAG douche and True-Trap are the same person, he-she should be banned.
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Well, we aren't going to get any answers from Ragdoctor and apparently not TT either, so I'm outa here unless someone wants to discuss technical details, real-life experiences with stabilizers, or other non-emotional topics related to bikes and riding. I look forward to those, but I can't continue trying to cut through the emotional fervor any longer. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.