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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by harkon
The trip to the dealer is all about cycling the ABS unit in such a way that the old fluid in the ABS unit is exchanged with new fluid. The problem with these ABS units is that old fluid causes things to get stuck internally, and it's not anything that can be repaired. So keeping new fluid in the ABS unit will keep things from getting bunged up. Some have, and I did, flush the system and take a ride, activating the front and rear ABS. The theory there is that doing that will exchange enough fluid to keep things happy. I bought the Infotech unit this year and it works great. Makes the whole process really easy. I installed speed bleeders as well, making things really quick and easy. I highly recommend both.
I just put speed bleeders on today. 20 minutes. I've had them on every other bike and they work great. Infotech is on the way 🙂
 
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Old Dec 11, 2020 | 08:36 PM
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Yes, presuming you are riding AFTER the flush and cycling the ABS then. Because the system is closed, little if any of the new fluid gets into the ABS unit. The system must be open for fluid to actually leave the ABS unit (to be flushed out) and new fluid pushed into the ABS unit. With the system open the only way the ABS can be cycled to allow the flush is with one of the electronic gadgets mentioned above, or the digital technician at the dealer. Is that better or worse for confusion? Sorry it wasn't stated better the first try.
When you use the Infotech or the Digital Tech, isn't the system closed? Demos I've seen have the system closed and the ABS activated. How does the fluid move in order to be exchanged?

Originally Posted by harkon
The trip to the dealer is all about cycling the ABS unit in such a way that the old fluid in the ABS unit is exchanged with new fluid. The problem with these ABS units is that old fluid causes things to get stuck internally, and it's not anything that can be repaired. So keeping new fluid in the ABS unit will keep things from getting bunged up. Some have, and I did, flush the system and take a ride, activating the front and rear ABS. The theory there is that doing that will exchange enough fluid to keep things happy. I bought the Infotech unit this year and it works great. Makes the whole process really easy. I installed speed bleeders as well, making things really quick and easy. I highly recommend both.
My end game is to buy the Infotech and speed bleeders. How does the Infotech move the fluid out of the ABS. Is the system open when you use it?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 07:18 AM
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A conventional flush, then a ride and application of the brakes activating the abs a few times is a way to partially flush out the remaining old fluid in the abs controller.

This is on par with the practice of an engine oil change. No, you didn’t get it all, some was in the oil pump and other areas, but in use it all gets diluted so you’ve done a 90+percent oil change, and that’s quite good enough.

Some of the aftermarket abs controllers have become affordable and versatile enough to consider adding to the tool box though.

 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultramonte
When you use the Infotech or the Digital Tech, isn't the system closed? Demos I've seen have the system closed and the ABS activated. How does the fluid move in order to be exchanged?



My end game is to buy the Infotech and speed bleeders. How does the Infotech move the fluid out of the ABS. Is the system open when you use it?
He has a video on YouTube that demonstrates the procedures involved.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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I just bought the HD2 from IT Mercenary after watching his youtube video. very slick system and compared to other options, it is a very good deal that pays for itself with the first use.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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What btsom has posted is how I interpret a braking or hydraulic system working. The only way to get the fluid changed is to open a bleed screw and get the fluid out. So as I understand it to get the fluid changed in the ABS unit requires the use of a tool that makes it open during the bleed process.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
What btsom has posted is how I interpret a braking or hydraulic system working. The only way to get the fluid changed is to open a bleed screw and get the fluid out. So as I understand it to get the fluid changed in the ABS unit requires the use of a tool that makes it open during the bleed process.
Better explanation^^ Agree that would be the best way. Disagree that it is necessary with reality dictating its not an option anyway. Flush. Then brake on dirt, gravel, or grass a few times. Or, abs tool. Or dealership. Mix some new with the old. And, using Bosch 5.1, that has a 3 year service interval, every two years works "for me".
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 12:36 PM
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This may be a dumb question but, If you never panic brake or use a tool to activate the abs, does the "old" fluid stay in the pump forever?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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Not if you follow the FSM and have the fluid changed every 2 years.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Not if you follow the FSM and have the fluid changed every 2 years.
huh??
 
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