what fluids used in trans and primary? Amzoil Severe Gear cleared up my 06 RK

 

Inspect the throwout bearing.

Adjust clutch and cable.

Try using Automatic Transmission Fluid in primary (don`t bother changing transmission lube, it doesn`t have any effect).

Most important thing to remember: Don`t expect miracles...

Just slightly blip the throttle and as the RPM drops lift up on the shift lever.

Don`t get obsessed about getting the transmission into neutral.

 

I don't remember how many plates but what came out is what went back in. Thanks

 

Fritz Franz


Synthetic V-Twin Transmission Fluid

Synthetic V-Twin Primary Fluid

FLHXI Glide

 

You are working on a friend's bike but don't say how much Harley experience YOU have. Have you done clutch adjustments BY THE BOOK before so we can be confident you are doing all of the steps correctly and in order? Now, for the "sucker trap" I fell into. The book says to find the contact point of the center adjusting screw by turning it out and then turning it back in until you feel an increase in the turning resistance. Seems straight forward but the turning resistance change could be caused by a slightly burred thread caused by over torquing the lock nut. If you turn out your 1/2 to one turn out from there, you did not turn out from the actual contact point you might have 1.5 turns out or more from the actual contact point and that would make proper plate separation hard to attain so the clutch would drag even with the lever pulled tight against the handle grip. My technique now is, after loosening the locking nut, and turning it out several turns (so it doesn't interfere with the next step) is to turn out the screw a couple of turns and turn it back in with a wrench a couple of turns past the contact point, then back out again and in again at least one more time until I am confident that any burrs in the threads have been smoothed out. Now repeat the out and back in the last time and you can be confident that increase in turning resistance is the actual contact point. Then make the 1/2 to one turn out adjustment and lock down the adjuster with the lock nut. Adjust the cable for proper free play at the lever and you should be good to go. If your problem remains after this, you indeed have a deeper problem than a simple improper adjustment.


There is a way to verify that you have found to adjuster contact point. The plate the adjuster is in has a somewhat sloppy fit in the clutch hub. That plate is pushed against the spring ring to release the clutch. When there is no release effort applied to the plate, it is free to move slightly under the spring ring, up, down, left, right, in and out. Play with it and you will see what I am talking about. When the adjuster is screwed in to or slightly beyond the contact point, pressure is applied to the plate and it is no longer easy to move by hand. This verifies the contact point. Good luck, I hope this is all you need to improve on or cure the problem.

 

Try just going 1/4 turn out after contact. See what happens. Won't hurt anything. A lot of the aftermarket clutch kits have a slightly different overall dimension therefore "book" adjustments are too loose.

 

btsom:
Thank you for your reply. As for my Harley experience I've owned, ridden and worked on many Harley Davidson Scooters for some 45 years now and know how to do clutch adjustments. About the only thing I haven't done on a Harley Davidson is split the cases and mess with the crank. I sub that out when needed. I'm pretty sure my clutch adjustment skills are spot on and I thought I ask on this site for any suggestions or if someone has encountered this problem before I pull the bike apart. What I plan to do is check out the throw out bearing first, a just @ 1/2 and see what happens. If that doesn't work I'll try a 1/4 as brakeless suggest. If that doesn't work maybe I'll going to ATF in the primary before pulling primary, clutch, and possibly the transmission. Thanks for you assistance.

FLHXIGlide

 

brakeless:

Ya I'm going to try your 1/4 turn out before I become involved in a project. Thanks.

FLHXIGlide