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My TC96B on my '09 Night Train was also counterbalanced, and doesn't feel or sound anything like my M8, nor did it feel or sound metric. Again- I'm an M8 owner, I'm not defending the TC because that's all I own. I'm just saying that in the context of "would you spend $3000 more to get an M8," as of right now, my answer is "no."
I also own an 09 Night Train and an M8, $3k more for an M8 is a no brainer. 3k is well worth the upgrade.
When discussing 103 vs 107 and upgrades, ask yourself are you going to build it up even? I am happy enough I might not do anything my 103. I have built bikes. Just did one last winter. But sure I am going to bother.
3k can buy a really nice seat, maybe shocks, ect. Again 3k is a lot of money to me, for a year apart. I'd go mileage, location, color, extras. But again I have not rode a M8. I am just cheap.
As far as the counter balancers being metric, are they not the same as softails?
I also own an 09 Night Train and an M8, $3k more for an M8 is a no brainer. 3k is well worth the upgrade.
Well, thanks for all the comments and feedback. I finally got test ride an M8 107" in stock form and I absolutely loved the powerband. It pulls off the line and then pulls even harder as the revs go up. Different beast to the TC 103" where the tq qnd hp were more "flat" and linear for want of a better word.
[QUOTE=Jshopes;20915479]guys made a huge fuss over the m8 when it came out like it was a huge powerhouse, so i take these comments with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE I came of a TC FLTRU and on to a M8 FLTRU in 2017 and believe me the M8 is way better than the TC in performance. Pretty sure the factory did some work on the gear ratios to make it feel that way.
I bought my current bike 2 months ago. I purposely stayed away from the M8 because it is an immature platform. IMO, the 2017-2019 owners are Harley's beta testers. I know the Twin Cam very well as I've owned 6 now. Solid engine that can achieve any numbers that you want but still good power in stock form. If you buy an M8, my opinion is the buy a 21 or 22 and hopefully you won't have issues. My personal opinion is that I wouldn't hit a dog in the *** with an M8 but plenty of riders feel differently and have had good luck with them (luck being the key word).
Saw my '17 RK Special I bought at 7,812 miles turn 33,333 on the way to work this morning. As far as I know and according to S/N search it's still stock oil pump. Never a minute's trouble. I enjoyed the '16 Switchback and Heritage 103 TC's but the ONLY way I'll trade or sell my 107 M8 RK is for a trike when I get to the point that I can't hold it up or right it if it lays over.
I bought my current bike 2 months ago. I purposely stayed away from the M8 because it is an immature platform. IMO, the 2017-2019 owners are Harley's beta testers. I know the Twin Cam very well as I've owned 6 now. Solid engine that can achieve any numbers that you want but still good power in stock form. If you buy an M8, my opinion is the buy a 21 or 22 and hopefully you won't have issues. My personal opinion is that I wouldn't hit a dog in the *** with an M8 but plenty of riders feel differently and have had good luck with them (luck being the key word).
It seems the 21 and 22 MY are problematic. I see a lot have issues mainly electrical and clutch cables
It seems the 21 and 22 MY are problematic. I see a lot have issues mainly electrical and clutch cables
Every year since 2003 on, Harley-Davidson has looked for ways to cut the cost of production while not paying attention to quality and longevity. Why 2003? That is when they removed the Timken crank bearing from the cases. The positive note is that the aftermarket has answered the call with solutions to build bulletproof engines.
Now we have the M8 and there isn't much you can do with a cylinder head with weak rocker supports, sumping issues, and primary oil transfer. The kinks are getting worked out but I wanted to buy my last bike this year and plan to rack up miles when I retire in 2 years.
How long do you keep your bikes? Resale value will be higher for the M8. That being said, I was in the market for a Street Glide and was looking at the M8. Stumbled upon a 2011 with 5k miles, one owner with many upgrades. The price was more than half of the M8. So I bought the twin cam.
How long do you keep your bikes? Resale value will be higher for the M8. That being said, I was in the market for a Street Glide and was looking at the M8. Stumbled upon a 2011 with 5k miles, one owner with many upgrades. The price was more than half of the M8. So I bought the twin cam.
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