How do you pass emissions testing?
Road Warrior
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RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
I think a big point to all of this is that if all riders sit back and just hope emission testing doesn't go way overboard it probably will. AMA and other organizations that lobby congress when the Fed gets too heavy handed with regulation on motorcycles are probably going to need a lot more member participation in the future. It may not just be membership dues, but getting involved enough to write letters. When the government gets other large organizations lobbying to put more restrictions on motorcycles, we are such a small and quiet segment that if they get no resistance....why not??
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RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
I just got back from having my bike tested here in AZ.(could'nt renew tags w/o testing bike).Just like Stel67 said,they did the sniffer test at idle and checked that I had a gas cap.Bike was well within guidelines for emissions.I did lean both cylinders with the PC before going,but looking at the results I doubt that was necessary.Hydrocarbons standard is 1800 PPM,my bike tested at 693.Carbon Monoxide standard is 5.50%,my bike tested at 0.90%. Costed $19.00.
Road Master
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From: Chester County, PA
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
ORIGINAL: Duracell
Lets see, everone you know, and everyone I know, get upat least 5 days a weekand drive all manor of multi cyclender gasoline and diesel vehicles towork and back. But you believe that a single cyclinder B&S lawn mower used for 30 mins. once a week, only in the summer for a lot of us somehow needs to be regulated? You need to read less and think for your selfmore. I bet your still trying to figure out how the government keeps finding all the gas after the shortage we had in the 70's.
Lets see, everone you know, and everyone I know, get upat least 5 days a weekand drive all manor of multi cyclender gasoline and diesel vehicles towork and back. But you believe that a single cyclinder B&S lawn mower used for 30 mins. once a week, only in the summer for a lot of us somehow needs to be regulated? You need to read less and think for your selfmore. I bet your still trying to figure out how the government keeps finding all the gas after the shortage we had in the 70's.
Road Master
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From: Chester County, PA
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
ORIGINAL: Bark
I just got back from having my bike tested here in AZ.(could'nt renew tags w/o testing bike).Just like Stel67 said,they did the sniffer test at idle and checked that I had a gas cap.Bike was well within guidelines for emissions.I did lean both cylinders with the PC before going,but looking at the results I doubt that was necessary.Hydrocarbons standard is 1800 PPM,my bike tested at 693.Carbon Monoxide standard is 5.50%,my bike tested at 0.90%. Costed $19.00.
I just got back from having my bike tested here in AZ.(could'nt renew tags w/o testing bike).Just like Stel67 said,they did the sniffer test at idle and checked that I had a gas cap.Bike was well within guidelines for emissions.I did lean both cylinders with the PC before going,but looking at the results I doubt that was necessary.Hydrocarbons standard is 1800 PPM,my bike tested at 693.Carbon Monoxide standard is 5.50%,my bike tested at 0.90%. Costed $19.00.
See and some of the guys earlier in the thread were saying that no way would it ever happen. Go figure.
Road Master
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From: Chester County, PA
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
ORIGINAL: TexasRedneck
An' if it wuz applied evenly, ah might agree - but it ain't. All most have ta do is show that the repairs exceed a certain amount....an' they git a waiver.
ORIGINAL: chornbe
You do realize this *IS* all for a good cause, right? Or is that whole breathing thing over rated?
You do realize this *IS* all for a good cause, right? Or is that whole breathing thing over rated?
1) You will get sick of it and buy a new(er) vehicle.
2) You will continue to do this every year, thus generating revenue, and some day you may actually, eventually get it all sorted out
3) Your old, failing vehicle will eventually retire itself by dying or by dying just enough that repairs will bring it up to spec.
Point being, it's the minority cases this applies to and those minority cases will eventually go away thru' attrition and replacements.
Ultimate HDF Member
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From: Hico, TX (once home to Billy the Kid)
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
ORIGINAL: gene01
Here is part of one article that was a link up a couple of posts, it is from the EPA....... that would be federal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[align=left]The new federal standards are patterned after[/align][align=left]regulations already scheduled to go into effect in[/align][align=left]California. The California standards will be[/align][align=left]implemented in two stages, the first step[/align][align=left]affecting all motorcycle sold there beginning with[/align][align=left]the 2004 model year. The second stage takes[/align][align=left]effect in California with the 2008 model year.[/align][align=left]The planned federal regulations would adopt the[/align][align=left]California standards two years later. This means[/align][align=left]that the first stage would go into effect[/align][align=left]nationwide with the 2006 model year, and the[/align][align=left]second stage following in the 2010 model year.[/align][align=left]The new standards reduce the level of[/align][align=left]hydrocarbons that can be produced by[/align][align=left]motorcycles from the current 5 grams per[/align][align=left]kilometer to 1.4 grams in 2006 and 0.8 grams in[/align][align=left]2010. Over the next eight years, the allowable[/align][align=left]level of hydrocarbons will drop more than 85 per[/align]cent.
Here is part of one article that was a link up a couple of posts, it is from the EPA....... that would be federal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[align=left]The new federal standards are patterned after[/align][align=left]regulations already scheduled to go into effect in[/align][align=left]California. The California standards will be[/align][align=left]implemented in two stages, the first step[/align][align=left]affecting all motorcycle sold there beginning with[/align][align=left]the 2004 model year. The second stage takes[/align][align=left]effect in California with the 2008 model year.[/align][align=left]The planned federal regulations would adopt the[/align][align=left]California standards two years later. This means[/align][align=left]that the first stage would go into effect[/align][align=left]nationwide with the 2006 model year, and the[/align][align=left]second stage following in the 2010 model year.[/align][align=left]The new standards reduce the level of[/align][align=left]hydrocarbons that can be produced by[/align][align=left]motorcycles from the current 5 grams per[/align][align=left]kilometer to 1.4 grams in 2006 and 0.8 grams in[/align][align=left]2010. Over the next eight years, the allowable[/align][align=left]level of hydrocarbons will drop more than 85 per[/align]cent.
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Mesa, AZ
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
As with the other folks here in AZ, in Maricopa County, which I understand is now the only county in Az requiring testing, I failed first test. Too much hydrocarbon on my 2000 carb'd Heritage.Went to my local shop, the adjusted the carb, passed. Went back to the shop and adjust idle back.
I am running 95" with 2 in 1 Thunder Header.
My 02 Ultra is stock, FI and no problems. I believe here, any bike 5 or more years old must go through testing but no inspection, unless it is from another state and you are wanting AZ license plates.
I did read that Tucson removed their requirement this year.
The whole testing thing ranks up there with the helmet issue.
I am running 95" with 2 in 1 Thunder Header.
My 02 Ultra is stock, FI and no problems. I believe here, any bike 5 or more years old must go through testing but no inspection, unless it is from another state and you are wanting AZ license plates.
I did read that Tucson removed their requirement this year.
The whole testing thing ranks up there with the helmet issue.
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: AZ
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
ORIGINAL: rinja64
As with the other folks here in AZ, in Maricopa County, which I understand is now the only county in Az requiring testing, I failed first test. Too much hydrocarbon on my 2000 carb'd Heritage.Went to my local shop, the adjusted the carb, passed. Went back to the shop and adjust idle back.
I am running 95" with 2 in 1 Thunder Header.
My 02 Ultra is stock, FI and no problems. I believe here, any bike 5 or more years old must go through testing but no inspection, unless it is from another state and you are wanting AZ license plates.
I did read that Tucson removed their requirement this year.
The whole testing thing ranks up there with the helmet issue.
As with the other folks here in AZ, in Maricopa County, which I understand is now the only county in Az requiring testing, I failed first test. Too much hydrocarbon on my 2000 carb'd Heritage.Went to my local shop, the adjusted the carb, passed. Went back to the shop and adjust idle back.
I am running 95" with 2 in 1 Thunder Header.
My 02 Ultra is stock, FI and no problems. I believe here, any bike 5 or more years old must go through testing but no inspection, unless it is from another state and you are wanting AZ license plates.
I did read that Tucson removed their requirement this year.
The whole testing thing ranks up there with the helmet issue.
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Cruiser
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Albuquerque, New Mexico
RE: How do you pass emissions testing?
So far, here in New Mexico, they're only testing cars and trucks. But that might be only a matter of time until some idiot thinks the state can make a buck by testing motorcycles too. The only time a motorcycle gets "tested" is when a vehicle changes hands - individual to individual; the dealerships don't have to. The "testing" involves the local MVD person coming out and giving the bike a once over looking at lights, turn signals, etc..
