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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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I purchased a XM car receiver setup for around $35. This included the cigarette adapter and magnetic car antenna. The receiver can either re-broacast the music to an unused FM channel, or through a cord to the aux imput on a stereo. I put the antenna inside the fairing on my Ultra on top of the stereo. I ziptied the power adapter to the inside of the fairing and soldered power leads to it so it didn't have to be in a lighter socket. I ran the receiver wires out the fairing by the handlebars and used two-sided tape to attach the mount for the receiver to my fairing to the left of the fuel guage. Cheap and works well. I could also have just put some velcro with adheasive back on the fairing and done the same to the receiver. Any way you slice it, a cheap way to get satellite radio on your bike.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Here is the installation manual:

http://www.sirius.com/pdf/manuals/sc...tion_guide.pdf
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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OK, here is what I have been told by 3 Sirius tech guys (I too was sceptical, so I wanted a second and third opinion!). The SC-C1 will work with any satellite ready radio not just Sirius ready. What I am understanding, this will be a simple plug and play install with the HD XM harness. There are 2 of these harnesses. One is part # 70172-06. This one is for XM (satellite) only - no other add ons and is $49.95. The other is part # 70169-06. This is the one that allows you to add rear speakers, CB, intercom, hands free cell or XM and is $129.95. That is the one that I have on order since I am doing rear speakers too. As soon as that harness comes in I should have a better handle on this whole situation. I was hoping it would show today, but it didn't.News (good I hope) will come here as soon as I know anything!
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Well my 08 ultra already has rear speakers and CB....So that harness should already be on this bike?? Correct??

So I am anxiously awaiting your final installation with that harness. Please, please, please include some good pics when you do it.
Man, I really hopes this works out the way it sounds like it is going to.

Keep us posted hoz...
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Ok Guys,
we are narrowing this down.
I just visited with my parts guy...
The wiring harness on the 08 ultra that connects the rear speakers, CB, controls etc. is part number 70160-08 (audio harness overlay) and this DOES NOT include a connection for the XM tuner. For the 08's that have all the rears, cb etc. The book states you still have to buy the part number HOZ88 referenced, 70172-06 for 50 bucks.
So no matter what bike you have, Harley is gonna get their "HARLEY TAX" from you somehow. But if you are only wanting to add this Sirius unit it is only gonna cost you an extra 50 bucks.

So it sounds like we are almost listening to Sirius Sat. Radio throuh the Stock HK head unit for about 100 bucks.

I Still am unsure how the connection from the Sirius SCC1 and the Harley harness are going to match up, but hopefully HOZ88 will have an answer for that pretty soon.

Also I wanted to add one thing. I have seen posts were poeple state that they have bought one of the portable Sat. radio units that either utilize a wireless fm transmitter or the aux. plug on the front of the radio. That will work fine if you are not too concerned about the quality of your music. I have tried several of those in my cages and once I bought one of these remote tuners that utilze an indash head unit, the sound quality no comparison. Its like the difference between an old AM transitor and modern day boom box.
The quality of the sound with a remote tuner far exceeds that of one the portable units. IMHO! And thats my .02 on the portable Sat radio units.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Ok Guys,
we are narrowing this down.
I just visited with my parts guy...
The wiring harness on the 08 ultra that connects the rear speakers, CB, controls etc. is part number 70160-08 (audio harness overlay) and this DOES NOT include a connection for the XM tuner. For the 08's that have all the rears, cb etc. The book states you still have to buy the part number HOZ88 referenced, 70172-06 for 50 bucks.
So no matter what bike you have, Harley is gonna get their "HARLEY TAX" from you somehow. But if you are only wanting to add this Sirius unit it is only gonna cost you an extra 50 bucks.

So it sounds like we are almost listening to Sirius Sat. Radio throuh the Stock HK head unit for about 100 bucks.

I Still am unsure how the connection from the Sirius SCC1 and the Harley harness are going to match up, but hopefully HOZ88 will have an answer for that pretty soon.

Also I wanted to add one thing. I have seen posts were poeple state that they have bought one of the portable Sat. radio units that either utilize a wireless fm transmitter or the aux. plug on the front of the radio. That will work fine if you are not too concerned about the quality of your music. I have tried several of those in my cages and once I bought one of these remote tuners that utilze an indash head unit, the sound quality no comparison. Its like the difference between an old AM transitor and modern day boom box.
The quality of the sound with a remote tuner far exceeds that of one the portable units. IMHO! And thats my .02 on the portable Sat radio units.
Sounds like you guys are getting it worked out. I don't have Sirius I have XM and I haven't found a way to get Xm and use the HD controls so I'm surpised you can do it with Sirius but if you can thats great for you Sirius guys. As far as the FM transmitter vs the Aux. input I agree with the fm modulator being poor sound quality but through the Aux. is as good as you can get. It goes directly out the headphone jack into the head, the sound quality is as good as the way your trying to do it.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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I disagree Trock. The tuner in the remote system is much better quality. Like I said. this is just MHO.

I have tried many different systems in my cage and the remote tuner, wired directly into a sat. ready head unitis hands down the best quality sound.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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OK, after 2.5 maddening hours on the phone with 4 different "tech people" at Sirius, I know one thing for sure - Sirius hires complete dumbasses for their tech support!!!! Yes, they tell me, the SCC1 will work with the HD factory radio. I respond with "How?!?!?". They respond with "I don't know how to make it work, but my information says it will work." I kept asking them what I needed to get it hooked up, and they kept telling me it was plug and play - not likely since the overlay harness plug is a rectangle and the Sirius plug is round!!! The fourth person I talked to (a supervisor) started telling me stuff that sounded really familliar, so I looked at the instal manual for the SCC1, and the dumb beotch was reading word for word out of the manual!!!! I told her that I already had the manual and I needed information past that. She told me that was the only info she had. THE FREAKIN INSTALL GUIDE WAS THE ONLY INFO SHE HAD!!!!Finally a 2 watt light bulb came on in her head and she told me that I might need a Sirius Connect Interface Cable. NO, REALLY?!?!? I calmly (yeah, right) informed her that was what I had been trying to tell them for the past 2.5 hours. Now that we have this figured out, what cable do I need and where can I buy it? She has no clue - she doesn't know if they even exist. AAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally called Mike at Hawg Wired and talked to him about it. He said that HD and HK use some VERY proprietary crap (plugs, harnesses, etc.) on this system and there is no way that he knows of to make this work. I did find in all of this the wiring diagram for the Sirius connect plug, and I have a buddy at HD trying to get me the same for the overlay harness. If I can find the info and the plugs I need, I might try to make a jumper plug myself. If not, screw it, I'm just going to pay the money and get the XM module so I don't have to deal with this crap anymore.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Right now it's looking like I owe Trock a Corona. I know I need several right now!
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Well put the Coronas on my tab. I feel your pain Hoz...Sirius isnt the only company that hires dumbasses to work the phone lines, Harley, AT&T, Sprint, Dodge, Sears, Dell etc......all pull from the same pool of dumbasses. AND THEN if they dont feel like the people they are getting are stupid enough......They ship your call to India wher some red dot hoochie that cant speak english and sure as hell cant understand it gets to try and solve your problem.
I apprceciate the time you have spent on this and I hope we can get it worked out.
I'm not giving up hope yet.
If you get the diagrams, I have a friend who makes plugs for stuff like this and can probably hook us up for a reasonable price if that is all we need is a splice cable to make this work.

Thanks again
 
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